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adams

Junior Member
Mar 5, 2005
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tell me about it. the only thing that I found nearly as horrific during that period was the nanking massacre. utterly gruesome and now mostly censored by the japanese, who still refuse to accept its occurence or apologise to the chinese.

whats amazing is the large collection of pictures which show it in great detail.
 

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Dan

Back & Quack
Mar 9, 2004
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was this when Japan invaded China after the long march and were eventually driven out by Mao's communist army?

If you meant that, yes the Japanese are massively cencoring it. People in China have also demonstrated recently as Japanese textbooks have played down the atrocities commited by Japanese.
 

adams

Junior Member
Mar 5, 2005
450
++ [ originally posted by Dan ] ++
was this when Japan invaded China after the long march and were eventually driven out by Mao's communist army?

If you meant that, yes the Japanese are massively cencoring it. People in China have also demonstrated recently as Japanese textbooks have played down the atrocities commited by Japanese.
This was unrelated to the long march. It was a part of Japan's imperialistic plan for power and dominance in the Far East during ww2.

The Japanese are indeed censoring it, although I dont know what good it does, because it is already an admission of guilt, and with the internet and free press you cant hide anything for long.

I just finished watching Hotel Rwanda for the second time, so I've been doing a lot of thinking about genocide.

I have a website with info on the subject:

http://www.fatherryan.org/holocaust/holocaust77/rapenanking.htm
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
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IMO, China is in for some big-time back-firing with the way they've been headed lately. It's one thing for a nation to feel wronged for atrocities in the past that have not been acknowledged and repented. It's another for a government to crack down on general public demonstrations but look the other way on selective issues.

Any country that officially breeds that kind of bile will only find it coming back to haunt them. History has proven that time and time again.

Countries really need to stop copping the victimization-as-entitlement thing. It's not helping the world, or their own countries/people, at all in today's modern age.
 

Dragon

Senior Member
Apr 24, 2003
27,407
++ [ originally posted by adams ] ++
its funny because i see so many people use the holocaust or hitler in an argument for its shock value, when they really are ignorant about it. i think you should think twice before comparing everything to the holocaust, even if it was the "first thing you came up with"- which is quite shocking in itself.

people need to be educated to avoid flagrant holocaust-abuse as a form of argument. i must admit, i was.
Well, personally, I have jewish family. So I guess I could say Im used to hearing stories about the holocaust
 

adams

Junior Member
Mar 5, 2005
450
++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
IMO, China is in for some big-time back-firing with the way they've been headed lately. It's one thing for a nation to feel wronged for atrocities in the past that have not been acknowledged and repented. It's another for a government to crack down on general public demonstrations but look the other way on selective issues.

Any country that officially breeds that kind of bile will only find it coming back to haunt them. History has proven that time and time again.

Countries really need to stop copping the victimization-as-entitlement thing. It's not helping the world, or their own countries/people, at all in today's modern age.
Your right. But in fact its the Chinese government who officially distance themselves from the demonstrations and the people who wish for the Japanese to come clean- its a political stance not a moral stance for them. And its only certain Chinese civil groups that want Japan to cease behaving like nothing ever happened.

When you mention victimization-as-entitlement, the first thing that came to my mind was the reparations issue. But hey, is that a sensitive topic or what :D
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Fabiana you have Jewish family who talk about the holocaust huh? How do you feel about their holocaust stories?
 

Nicole

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2004
7,561
++ [ originally posted by fabiana ] ++


No, its chinese. After all Im from Hong kong
I always though you were american? It was wierd when we were talking before and you were saying things like "your cant blame americans", I though you were talking in the 3rd person :D
 

Dragon

Senior Member
Apr 24, 2003
27,407
++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++


I always though you were american? It was wierd when we were talking before and you were saying things like "your cant blame americans", I though you were talking in the 3rd person :D
Im not american but Ive been living in America so I see things from american's point of view
 

adams

Junior Member
Mar 5, 2005
450
really, it wasnt that hard. fabiana is a latin american name, not chinese.

unless I've been processing the information wrong.

nikki your signature looks japanese. what does it say?
 

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