Nick Against the World (59 Viewers)

[KB824]

I don't think educating them would work, Martin.

It's a business, first and foremost, and we're talking about players livelihoods that are at stake. They must feel that they need to do what they have to do in order to maintain an edge.

It just casts a real pall on the sport itself, and the players who go out there and do it the right way.

 

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++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
" Former players Attilio Lombardo, Angelo Peruzzi, Nicola Amoruso and current team members Ciro Ferrara and Uruguayan Paolo Montero drew criticism from Judge Casalbore for stating that they also could not remember the names of the products administered to them.

pfft.

The antibiotics I took for malaria in Thailand was called "Doxicyclin". I also take a painkiller for my teeth after an operation, which is called "Cilamox". I take an antibiotic for the same operation, which goes by the name "Amoxcylin". I read those off the boxes, because no human being goes around memorising these names, especially busy footballers who just take what the doctor says.

 

[The Pado]

++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
Expert witnesses at last month's hearing claimed the players' red blood cell count indicated they were using the endurance-enhancer EPO (erythropoietin).

A serious question: How did the so called "expert" get access to the players' blood? I have been under the impression that in the 1990's, all doping control samples in Italian football were by urine. Currently, the urine test is still used with blood samples being optional for the individual player. It seems to me that if a player suspected there could be a problem with his sample, then he would not opt to give a blood sample. It seems to me that a club that was secretly doping its players would tell the players to only give urine samples and not blood.

Does anybody here know if blood samples were ever taken for doping control in the 1990's? I am curious about that.

 

[The Pado]

++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
BUT, the little known FACT OF THE DAY is that in fact JUVE was relegated to Serie B but because of outside circumstances they were brought back up:
In 1913 Juve was dead last in Serie A and was supposed to relegated to Serie B. The next season as the war was waging and the sport's popularity was in decline they decided to bring Juve back up for 'special circumstance' despite finishing dead last in the "Girone". This decision was debated for years as Juve never actually played in Serie B but did finish dead last in A and a schedule was actually printed out with Juve in B.

Nick, I decided to see how this thread started, as I was thinking it was only about doping. Do you realize how badly you have misrepresented yourself by calling this bag of lies a "fact"?

The fact is Serie A and B were not created until 1929. In 1913, Juve was never in relegation danger , as things did not work that way in 1913. That year the Northern qualifying round was divided into three groups of 6 clubs. The three last place finishers were Racing Club Libertas, Modena and Juve. The following season, there was no second division schedule drawn up, you liar. The fact is the Italian League's Northern qualifying round was expanded from 18 teams to 29 teams. Racing Libertas and Modena were also among the 29. Special "outside circumsatances" did not exist.

Why don't you call your thread "Incubo's lie of the week"?

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by Padovano ] ++


Nick, I decided to see how this thread started, as I was thinking it was only about doping. Do you realize how badly you have misrepresented yourself by calling this bag of lies a "fact"?

The fact is Serie A and B were not created until 1929. In 1913, Juve was never in relegation danger , as things did not work that way in 1913. That year the Northern qualifying round was divided into three groups of 6 clubs. The three last place finishers were Racing Club Libertas, Modena and Juve. The following season, there was no second division schedule drawn up, you liar. The fact is the Italian League's Northern qualifying round was expanded from 18 teams to 29 teams. Racing Libertas and Modena were also among the 29. Special "outside circumsatances" did not exist.

Why don't you call your thread "Incubo's lie of the week"?

 

[Martin]

Here it comes

 

[Layce Erayce]

right get the punch bowl ready

 

[gray]

I'm ready...

 

[The Pado]

Let's get ready to rumble.

Too bad we have a six hour time difference :down:

 

[Zizou]

To be honest, Incubo might be referring to the 50s incident (If i remember the right period) when Juve really came something like fourth from last and were going to be relegated. However the Lega that year decided to increase the number of teams in Serie A, so Juve remained in Serie A while only two teams were relegated.

The fishy thing is that an Agnelli was the president of the Lega at the time.

What I just said did happen, but I'm just saying it from memory so there might be some minor mistakes, but the basis of the story is there.

 

[Layce Erayce]

whoops he surprises all of us by ignoring pads post.....

but now that i said that he'll finally pop in.

but now that i said THAT, he wont.

etc

haha

 

[IncuboRossonero]

++ [ originally posted by Padovano ] ++


Nick, I decided to see how this thread started, as I was thinking it was only about doping. Do you realize how badly you have misrepresented yourself by calling this bag of lies a "fact"?

The fact is Serie A and B were not created until 1929. In 1913, Juve was never in relegation danger , as things did not work that way in 1913. That year the Northern qualifying round was divided into three groups of 6 clubs. The three last place finishers were Racing Club Libertas, Modena and Juve. The following season, there was no second division schedule drawn up, you liar. The fact is the Italian League's Northern qualifying round was expanded from 18 teams to 29 teams. Racing Libertas and Modena were also among the 29. Special "outside circumsatances" did not exist.

Why don't you call your thread "Incubo's lie of the week"?

Too little too late as always Robert. In fact, if that is the case then many scudetto's should also be questioned?
If you know how to read Italian let me know and I will recommend some readings. This issue was dealt with in La Gazzetta years ago .. the bottom line..because there was not the actual names SERIE A and SERIE B renders it irrelevant. Juve finished dead last and the sanction was relegation.
More over, lets give Martin the credit and stop re-gurgiatating what he said in his post. go to
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[IncuboRossonero]

++ [ originally posted by Zizou ] ++
To be honest, Incubo might be referring to the 50s incident (If i remember the right period) when Juve really came something like fourth from last and were going to be relegated. However the Lega that year decided to increase the number of teams in Serie A, so Juve remained in Serie A while only two teams were relegated.

The fishy thing is that an Agnelli was the president of the Lega at the time.

What I just said did happen, but I'm just saying it from memory so there might be some minor mistakes, but the basis of the story is there.

That is another incident as well..but if I mentioned that one it was going to be another 'conspiracy theory'.

 

[IncuboRossonero]

Watch who you call liar "Counsel"..
I'm giving you a pass on this one..the next time you throw something like that it ain't going to be pretty "counsellor".

 

[IncuboRossonero]

Fli..this head banging 'rock on' is your generic reponse to every attack on me. How ...clever.

And you scolded Lilianna?? Get real kid.

 

[Layce Erayce]

inbunco can i get one of those passes too? ill make copies and leave them at the door so people can take one as they come in.

 

[Zizou]

Why would it be a conspiracy theory? It's a well known fact, though to be fair they had decided to increase the number of teams from before the season had started, therefore they didnt know juve would have ended in that position. But that makes the story less interesting so I`ll stick with the 'Agnelli saved Juve' story

 

[IncuboRossonero]

++ [ originally posted by Zizou ] ++
Why would it be a conspiracy theory? It's a well known fact, though to be fair they had decided to increase the number of teams from before the season had started, therefore they didnt know juve would have ended in that position. But that makes the story less interesting so I`ll stick with the 'Agnelli saved Juve' story

Deal..

 

[Zizou]

That just proves that all 'conspiracy theories' are bullshit and have a logic explanation behind them but obviously people look for the most 'interesting' version of the story.

 

[IncuboRossonero]

Almost..when there is some truth behind it they yell conspiracy theory...when there is conspiracy behind it they yell "Berlusconi" and when I am behind it..well thats another story.

OK I'm off..
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