Hector, I don't try to debate you at all. I just think you are so far idiotic and egotistical that no matter what i say, you will not understand me, and that's fine. Persons who are able to really debate lie in the median of free thinking. You lie so far one way, it is not possible to debate, you make everyone try to think like you, and it's dumb, childish, and to be honest, it is unrealistic. You would be at home in the Library at Alexandria trying to invent the water wheel or design the Colossus of Rhodes. In the Pantheon thinking of the philosophy behind the "Giant Spaghetti Monster." But you don't live in ancient Greece. You live now, so your only true aspiration is to be the next David Koresh.