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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,332
you get all my respect for arguing your points in a civilised manner, though that which is contended is pointless and undeserving of all this brouhaha.
Of course. The true nature of my anger isn't the fact cops do this. We all know they do. What I'm upset about is the casual way in which Vin tells us about it. As if it doesn't matter. In truth this is something you ought to be ashamed of. You take it, but you don't talk about it. If this is not only tolerated but also considered normal, that usually means the levels of tolerance are getting higher.

You see this is happening because Andy, Bürke and Pado don't even see the discrimination in it anymore. Neither does Vin. And that is worrying.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,024
Just heard a good quote off CNN from a guy in New York. Topic: Is America becoming a bilingual nation?

"The only thing scarier to Americans than terrorism is being forced to learn something."

:lol2:
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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@ Seven - A better example is the cop who catches the 15-year old kid drawing a moustache and beard on the Bebe girl at the bus stop. Public vandalism is an illegal act, but rather than hauling the kid off to jail for the night, the cop brings the kid straight home to his parents. Should that cop be fired for abuse of power?

Your thing is to point out how unitelligent Vinman is, but at one time he said that you lacked the capacity to do what he does. That you could not be a cop. I'm sure that you responde with something witty like, "yes, I'm not dumb enough", but your latest posts prove that Vinman recognized something in you that now clearly demonstrates that you do lack the capacity.
correct amundo, Pado :agree:

Hey Hector, go look in an English dictionary for the meaning of this word-

DISCRETION


you may think that you are intelligent, you may want people to believe that you are....but in reality, you have no common sense, kid

you dont have the intelligence to be a police officer, and anyone could see that

and not that its everyone's business to know, but the majority of the time that I pull people over, I usually dont write them a traffic ticket.

If people are respectful, and understand their mistake, they usually drive away with a simple warning, and thats it !!

I guess in Seven's eyes, that makes me the most corrupt cop out there :p
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,024
In actuality, the worst cops are the ones who hound over trivial offenses and try to fuck people over despite the possibility the offender made an honest mistake. The real attention should be given to violent crimes.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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and not that its everyone's business to know, but the majority of the time that I pull people over, I usually dont write them a traffic ticket.

If people are respectful, and understand their mistake, they usually drive away with a simple warning, and thats it !!

I guess in Seven's eyes, that makes me the most corrupt cop out there :p
that depends, if you have consumer friendly prices then no :toast:
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,755
There's nothing worse than a corrupt cop. The guy should be fired. It's as simple as that. The entire nation would go berserk if he had stopped a beautiful blonde which gave him a blowjob to evade a ticket, but this is okay?
I have to call bullshit on this one, though. You make it sound as if speeding tickets -- as Burke points out, others can get out of anyway -- are some major abuse of power. What your statement does convey is that you have a real problem with authority figures. I can appreciate that. But a cop who flashes cop ID at a speeding ticket as the pinnacle of evil in society?

Seriously. Let's forget about Enron employees fleecing old ladies out of their heating bills (nothing personal, Mr. E :D). Or politicians who got us into ill-conceived wars where thousands of people on both sides are killed, took no responsibility for it, skipped town, left taxpayers with a bill for $1.2 trillion (though currently about $450 billion) with no end in sight, and took a new job where he got pay raises for his girlfriend. Or pretty much most of Italy's political structure (let alone Telecom Italia, Inter, and the FIGC).

There's a mutual understanding among people in law enforcement, and a lot of that is essential for survival when you get into multi-district situations, etc. Of course, there's the opportunity for abuse.

But then what job doesn't have what outsiders might call "insider perks" and opportunities for abuse? From Starbucks employees to people who work at record labels to hospital employees. Heck, I just have a Web site with a bunch of espresso ratings in SF and people from all over the country mail me free coffee to check out -- does that make me a corrupt scourge on society?

I understand the slippery slope concern. But zero tolerance policies are not only unrealistic, they are abject failures.
 
Apr 12, 2004
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I have to call bullshit on this one, though. You make it sound as if speeding tickets -- as Burke points out, others can get out of anyway -- are some major abuse of power. What your statement does convey is that you have a real problem with authority figures. I can appreciate that. But a cop who flashes cop ID at a speeding ticket as the pinnacle of evil in society?

Seriously. Let's forget about Enron employees fleecing old ladies out of their heating bills (nothing personal, Mr. E :D). Or politicians who got us into ill-conceived wars where thousands of people on both sides are killed, took no responsibility for it, skipped town, left taxpayers with a bill for $1.2 trillion (though currently about $450 billion) with no end in sight, and took a new job where he got pay raises for his girlfriend. Or pretty much most of Italy's political structure (let alone Telecom Italia, Inter, and the FIGC).

There's a mutual understanding among people in law enforcement, and a lot of that is essential for survival when you get into multi-district situations, etc. Of course, there's the opportunity for abuse.

But then what job doesn't have what outsiders might call "insider perks" and opportunities for abuse? From Starbucks employees to people who work at record labels to hospital employees. Heck, I just have a Web site with a bunch of espresso ratings in SF and people from all over the country mail me free coffee to check out -- does that make me a corrupt scourge on society?

I understand the slippery slope concern. But zero tolerance policies are not only unrealistic, they are abject failures.
:tup:

Quality post, mah man.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,024
Great to see that skank Paris Hilton released from jail after only 3 days. If we want to discuss what's right and wrong in law enforcement, we can start right here. Hopefully though now that she's out she'll drive her Mercedes drunk off the Santa Monica pier and die... that way we won't have to keep wasting time discussing her.
 

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