Nick Against the World (94 Viewers)
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I'm not sure what to make of the whole situation, but in the end, hopefully all will be known regarding this investigation....hopefully !
I obviously wouldnt want to see Juve dropped a division or 2, because if that happens, most of us here wouldnt get to see another Juve game until they bounced back up to Serie A
I feel bad for our players, who are caught in the middle of this whole mess
I obviously wouldnt want to see Juve dropped a division or 2, because if that happens, most of us here wouldnt get to see another Juve game until they bounced back up to Serie A
I feel bad for our players, who are caught in the middle of this whole mess
Truth be told, as I suspected, Nick only had half of the equation in suggesting the possibility that this could forever change the structure of the team. If there is enough truth -- or more appropriately, evidence -- in this, it would and should change the structure of Lega Calcio itself.
The league, let alone Juve, cannot continue as it is if there's real evidence and truth behind some of these accusations.
The point that disappoints me is the evidence part -- as we all know truth and evidence do not always go hand-in-hand. Which, though fair from the accusational standpoint, allows corrupt behavior to persist. I truly hope that if there are guilty parties, we aren't left with a "tax evasion" enforcement type of clause.
The league, let alone Juve, cannot continue as it is if there's real evidence and truth behind some of these accusations.
The point that disappoints me is the evidence part -- as we all know truth and evidence do not always go hand-in-hand. Which, though fair from the accusational standpoint, allows corrupt behavior to persist. I truly hope that if there are guilty parties, we aren't left with a "tax evasion" enforcement type of clause.
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If you are sick about reading about this mess, simply check out Football Italia. Somebody should clue them in that there is a big story in Italy. No, those dolts lead with the headlines of Nesta's agent thinks Nesta might possibly end his career at Lazio sometime in the distant future, and Peruzzi might be signing a new Lazio deal. Earth shaking stuff there.
I have to agree that there is no sense in dragging Milan into this filth.
1. Milan has not been mentioned in this investigation
2. Milan has continued to maintain an excellent relationship with Juve and has refrained from kicking us while were down.
3. If Juve is under investigation at this moment, then it is because of our own acts, and not the acts of other clubs.
1. Milan has not been mentioned in this investigation
2. Milan has continued to maintain an excellent relationship with Juve and has refrained from kicking us while were down.
3. If Juve is under investigation at this moment, then it is because of our own acts, and not the acts of other clubs.
Juventus board resigns after phone-tap scandal
ROME, May 11 (Reuters) - Juventus's board resigned on Thursday, the club said in a statement, after days of press revelations over embarrassing telephone interceptions involving its top management.
The Italian Football Federation is investigating the content of tapped telephone conversations involving Juve general manager Luciano Moggi talking of refereeing appointments for games with a Football Federation official responsible for selecting match officials.
"The board has tendered its resignation," Juventus said, without offering any explanation.
The case has rapidly snowballed, with public prosecutors in Turin, Rome and Naples now reportedly investigating alleged widespread malpractice involving referees and several Serie A clubs.
ROME, May 11 (Reuters) - Juventus's board resigned on Thursday, the club said in a statement, after days of press revelations over embarrassing telephone interceptions involving its top management.
The Italian Football Federation is investigating the content of tapped telephone conversations involving Juve general manager Luciano Moggi talking of refereeing appointments for games with a Football Federation official responsible for selecting match officials.
"The board has tendered its resignation," Juventus said, without offering any explanation.
The case has rapidly snowballed, with public prosecutors in Turin, Rome and Naples now reportedly investigating alleged widespread malpractice involving referees and several Serie A clubs.
I'd like to Nick... But i wont... I am sick and tired of the uneducated and frankly fucking blind attitude of this forum when it comes to these scandals...
Its allways apparently the media attacking us etc... its bullshit... then you get the wheres the evidence crap... do a little more research than reading a handful of websites and its not hard to find credible information.
Then you get the "but we were proven innocent last time" to back up their calls of harassment... Cracks me up... as for the innocence thing.. maybe people should do some research... Giraudo and agricola got off the doping scandal on a technicality not a lack of evidence as people here would have you believe... Its ridiculous...
Tell me... If theres nothing in it... Do the heads of italian football resign over it, do key members of the ref's association resign ? If its no more than a little press inspired scandal... does the whole board resign rather than jus the figureheads...
Then we have those that say these men resigned because they care about the club... oh fucking purllleeeezzz ... Can you hear yourselves?
So no Nick i have nothing more to say... I said yesterday that there was much more to come today, but no one took any notice... I said yesterday about the dp / cap issue but it was swept aside as nothing, yet we are now seeing that start to play out...
But hey... I'm part of that scummy media you all hate and that makes so much up...
See it as you like, If you all wanna believe we are allways innocent and the victim then thats fine... Personally, In supporting my team , I am open to and accept both the good and the bad, Whatever it may be...
Its allways apparently the media attacking us etc... its bullshit... then you get the wheres the evidence crap... do a little more research than reading a handful of websites and its not hard to find credible information.
Then you get the "but we were proven innocent last time" to back up their calls of harassment... Cracks me up... as for the innocence thing.. maybe people should do some research... Giraudo and agricola got off the doping scandal on a technicality not a lack of evidence as people here would have you believe... Its ridiculous...
Tell me... If theres nothing in it... Do the heads of italian football resign over it, do key members of the ref's association resign ? If its no more than a little press inspired scandal... does the whole board resign rather than jus the figureheads...
Then we have those that say these men resigned because they care about the club... oh fucking purllleeeezzz ... Can you hear yourselves?
So no Nick i have nothing more to say... I said yesterday that there was much more to come today, but no one took any notice... I said yesterday about the dp / cap issue but it was swept aside as nothing, yet we are now seeing that start to play out...
But hey... I'm part of that scummy media you all hate and that makes so much up...
See it as you like, If you all wanna believe we are allways innocent and the victim then thats fine... Personally, In supporting my team , I am open to and accept both the good and the bad, Whatever it may be...
Galliani resists resignation calls
Thursday 11 May, 2006
TheJuventus Triade and the FIGC President have resigned over the transcript scandal, but Adriano Galliani resists calls to quit the Lega Calcio.
“Every day there is a new allegation,” said the Milan vice-President who is also President of the League – similar to a union of Serie A and B clubs.
“It’s like hunting season. There is talk in the newspaper of telephone taps, betting scandals and pressure on Coaches to pick certain players, but this makes it difficult to tell the false rumours from the real investigations.”
Juventus are at the centre of the initial scandal, as transcripts of alleged telephone conversations between director general Luciano Moggi and various other people, including refereeing designator Pierluigi Pairetto and his son Alessandro Moggi, the head of the GEA agency, were published in the Italian Press.
“All I’ll say is that if someone has made a mistake, then they will pay, but football will recover from this. Up until now, it’s all rumour and conjecture, not facts. I don’t think anyone should jump to conclusions or rush to condemn. This season’s Scudetto is not sub judice, it will be assigned regularly.”
The entire Juventus Board of Directors resigned this evening over the scandal and over the past few days both FIGC President Franco Carraro and vice-President Innocenzo Mazzini also quit.
Today Lega Calcio vice-President Maurizio Zamparini called for Galliani to follow in what would be a total restructuring of Italian football.
“The Lega has expressed its intention to go towards a radical change, not just in the Federation, but also the Lega itself,” noted Zamparini, who is also patron of Palermo.
“It should be put in the hands of an external caretaker President. We’ve discussed this option many times and everyone agrees on it except Galliani.”
The Milan transfer guru was quick to dismiss these calls to resign his post in charge of the Lega Calcio.
“This is the first I’ve heard of it,” said Galliani. “We have never talked about the possibility of my resignation during the meetings of all the clubs, so this is a personal view taken by Zamparini. I am amazed and don’t see why I should quit, especially as resigning is a sign of weakness in Italy. There’s no reason for me to go now.”
Instead, Galliani proposed a 'Code of Ethics’ for football, which was approved unanimously by the clubs in today’s meeting.
Thursday 11 May, 2006
TheJuventus Triade and the FIGC President have resigned over the transcript scandal, but Adriano Galliani resists calls to quit the Lega Calcio.
“Every day there is a new allegation,” said the Milan vice-President who is also President of the League – similar to a union of Serie A and B clubs.
“It’s like hunting season. There is talk in the newspaper of telephone taps, betting scandals and pressure on Coaches to pick certain players, but this makes it difficult to tell the false rumours from the real investigations.”
Juventus are at the centre of the initial scandal, as transcripts of alleged telephone conversations between director general Luciano Moggi and various other people, including refereeing designator Pierluigi Pairetto and his son Alessandro Moggi, the head of the GEA agency, were published in the Italian Press.
“All I’ll say is that if someone has made a mistake, then they will pay, but football will recover from this. Up until now, it’s all rumour and conjecture, not facts. I don’t think anyone should jump to conclusions or rush to condemn. This season’s Scudetto is not sub judice, it will be assigned regularly.”
The entire Juventus Board of Directors resigned this evening over the scandal and over the past few days both FIGC President Franco Carraro and vice-President Innocenzo Mazzini also quit.
Today Lega Calcio vice-President Maurizio Zamparini called for Galliani to follow in what would be a total restructuring of Italian football.
“The Lega has expressed its intention to go towards a radical change, not just in the Federation, but also the Lega itself,” noted Zamparini, who is also patron of Palermo.
“It should be put in the hands of an external caretaker President. We’ve discussed this option many times and everyone agrees on it except Galliani.”
The Milan transfer guru was quick to dismiss these calls to resign his post in charge of the Lega Calcio.
“This is the first I’ve heard of it,” said Galliani. “We have never talked about the possibility of my resignation during the meetings of all the clubs, so this is a personal view taken by Zamparini. I am amazed and don’t see why I should quit, especially as resigning is a sign of weakness in Italy. There’s no reason for me to go now.”
Instead, Galliani proposed a 'Code of Ethics’ for football, which was approved unanimously by the clubs in today’s meeting.
First of all
There is no evidence against Juve either
Second
Why do you really think there "hasn't even been a mention or rumour involving Milan"?
Your OWNER controls the Media industry, ffs
I know AC is dirty and you know it as well, and WHEN they do investigate further, believe me, we'll hear plenty about Berlusconi and Galliani.
Just stay tuned
There is no evidence against Juve either
Second
Why do you really think there "hasn't even been a mention or rumour involving Milan"?
Your OWNER controls the Media industry, ffs
I know AC is dirty and you know it as well, and WHEN they do investigate further, believe me, we'll hear plenty about Berlusconi and Galliani.
Just stay tuned
I was always out of trouble and i ve always avoided to insult or get insulted in this forum,
the only person i ever had a problem with was the forum's terrorist, seven,
i didnt know he got back and i had no idea who he was,
i didnt even care about it,
so when an insult/personal attack came out of nowhere, i was curius to see who i was dealing with,
and guess who this is!!!
Seven i now you have a personal problem with me
and you might consider me partially quilty for your very justified ban
But i forbitten you to ever quote me again
and esp do it like that,you dont have the courage again to face me like a man
and always throw those insults...
I request this... individual to be banned again
for good i hope this time