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Bjerknes

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Now I can't sleep. Goddamnit. Now I can't fucking sleep because of these allegations and the possibility of my club being an absolute fraud.

Matteo.. said:
This is what we know for sure:


3) This isn't the first scandal we're in. It isn't the first time we're trying to put the blame down to one man either (Moggi). Everyone seems to forget we fvcking employed Moggi and asked him to do what he did.
Most likely one of these scandels is indeed true, and I would not be surprised if Giraudo "fixing the book" was the only one which turns out to be the true. The guy did an amazing job for Juventus, however come to think of it this whole discussion seems rather fishy to me. The moves Giraudo has pulled within our books have been nothing short of miracluous.
 

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Snoop

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Oct 2, 2001
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Andy said:
I sincerely hope we do not escape punishment, as that is unfair to Italy and unfair to football in general. Moggi and that Torro scumbag Giraudo deserves to be burned at the stake if this is true, success or no success.
yeah it will be unfair if we escape the punishments (in case we are guilty), but it will also be unfair the other big clubs escape the punishments of their dirty works too. Milan ofr example.
 

Matteo..

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Apr 30, 2006
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Yep. Thinking all of this is made up is simply ridiuclous. I hate to say it, but if anything remotely points out to us fixing games, I want to see Juventus go down. I'm too much of a player myself to accept this.
 

Matteo..

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snoop said:
yeah it will be unfair if we escape the punishments (in case we are guilty), but it will also be unfair the other big clubs escape the punishments of their dirty works too. Milan ofr example.
I'm not going to point my finger to other clubs if it turns out we're not clean.
 

Bjerknes

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snoop said:
yeah it will be unfair if we escape the punishments (in case we are guilty), but it will also be unfair the other big clubs escape the punishments of their dirty works too. Milan ofr example.
Indeed. Juventus going down with Milan would be alright with me, if this is indeed true, of course,
 

Matteo..

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Andy said:
Indeed. Juventus going down with Milan would be alright with me, if this is indeed true, of course,
Andy, that's not what we should worry about. How can you point your finger at other clubs, when you're guilty yourself?

PS: the avatar's obviously sarcastic.
 

Snoop

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Matteo.. said:
I'm not going to point my finger to other clubs if it turns out we're not clean.
I am just tired of seeing Fixed matches, be it Juve, milan and other Big clubs against the poor small clubs. If all these are proven, wouldn't you feel like an idiot, hoping your club win a match, which it was fixed weeks ago before the match?

Football became disgusting :sigh:
 

Matteo..

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Everyone's saying they'll support Juventus when they go down, but what about supporting them right now? I can't honestly cheer for a club that's not fair. I'm sorry. I won't be too happy if we win on sunday.
 

Bjerknes

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Matteo.. said:
Andy, that's not what we should worry about. How can you point your finger at other clubs, when you're guilty yourself?

PS: the avatar's obviously sarcastic.
I'm fairly certain we are not the only club guilty, and I sincerely hope those other clubs are investigated and fall as well. It is simply not fair any other way.

Is that the photo of Moggi offering the Maserati to Pairetto?
 

Snoop

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Andy said:
I'm fairly certain we are not the only club guilty, and I sincerely hope those other clubs are investigated and fall as well. It is simply not fair any other way.
exactly..

I think they are showing us guilty because the likes of Moggi and Giraudo have made a lot of enemies, and came to a point that they want them down, by spreading the dark secrets of them one by one.
 
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IncuboRossonero

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Nov 16, 2003
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    Latest Developments reported today in the Italian media:

    9 teams under investigation: Juve, Lazio, Fiorentina, Udinese, Siena, Messina, Arezzo, Crotone e Avellino. As part of an investigation by the Naples Prosecutor the allegations include Sports Fraud and from what I understand 'bending over' for Luciano Moggi. Three of these teams (mute on which) risks being relegated to Serie B. Official Massimo De Santis's name has been floating around for the issue of certain games in the 2004/2005 season.

    Anyhow I have not read or seen more than the basic headline news/articles and don't know enough about this to go into more detail ...


    Maybe Paul could shed some light on this..at this point its hard to distinguish actual investigations versus rumors.
     
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    IncuboRossonero

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    There has not even been a mention or rumor involving Milan so I'm not sure why everyone keeps pairing Milan with Juve. Juve has won or will have won on Sunday four scudetto's in the last five years...they have not been in second place since Capello took the helm and they still remain the team with questionable calls...

    You can highlight Berlusconi's position as PM and Galliani all you want but until we have even a shrewd of evidence and corroborating evidence (that Milan has actually won more than one Scudetto since 1999) then much like claiming Inter's predictions come August its a load of horsesh*t.
     

    Matteo..

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    Cronios said:
    Nah, Milan would never be touched...
    This is what absolutely disgusts me in this forum. Not only do most people not even have a clue what they're talking about, they also start making these wild claims about Milan. Suddenly the press is anti-Juventus and Milan controls the Italian FA. Grow the fvck up. Milan did get relegated when it became clear they fixed games. If there's one club in Italy that has been untouchable so far it's JUVENTUS. And guess what, this is JUVENTUS' scandal, no need to point your fingers at other clubs just yet FFS.
     

    Azzurri7

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    Matteo.. said:
    This is what absolutely disgusts me in this forum. Not only do most people not even have a clue what they're talking about, they also start making these wild claims about Milan. Suddenly the press is anti-Juventus and Milan controls the Italian FA. Grow the fvck up. Milan did get relegated when it became clear they fixed games. If there's one club in Italy that has been untouchable so far it's JUVENTUS. And guess what, this is JUVENTUS' scandal, no need to point your fingers at other clubs just yet FFS.

    You do have a point here Seven.

    But you can't deny the fact that media are playing a big role out there, just look at the prev accusations we were in....Not that I'm defending the situation right now, Because I'll feel ashame incase we were proved to be playing mafia out there. But still, no one and i mean no one can deny that press and media were always accussing the team for silly things.
     

    Matteo..

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    Azzurri7 said:
    You do have a point here Seven.

    But you can't deny the fact that media are playing a big role out there, just look at the prev accusations we were in....Not that I'm defending the situation right now, Because I'll feel ashame incase we were proved to be playing mafia out there. But still, no one and i mean no one can deny that press and media were always accussing the team for silly things.
    I agree about the press, but first of all they're not anti-juve per se. They just comment whenever there's some hint of a scandal in which Juventus is involved, because we're quite simply the biggest club in Italy. However, even if this turns out to be nothing (which I sincerely doubt) why the need to point at other clubs? This is something WE have to deal with. Not Milan.

    Besides saying Milan is untouchable and is Italy's real powerhouse is quite ridiculous isn't it? If there's one club untouchable it's Juventus. Milan DID get demoted FFS.
     

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