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[Seven]

I mean, are you saying it's not true? Check the wikipedia article on state funded terrorism I linked to. They cite more than 10 sources. Also the wikileaks intelligence reports? That's not evidence?

I never said they didn't. I don't know why you are saying this to me.

 

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[Juliano13]

I never said they didn't. I don't know why you are saying this to me.

So you agree that Saudi Arabia funds terrorism?

 

[ZoSo]

What on earth are you babbling on about? How you followed the public debate since 2001? Have you seen the dramatic voter leap towards right wing nationalist? How you seen in just what degree freedom have been limited for everyday europeans to prevent terrorism? Have you noticed how many countries Nato or western coalations have bombed in the name of "war against terrorism"?

Your solution is a DDR-like state, but that would mean that every single liberal/democratic-value we are currently defending is lost. And no one even those with a limited intellectual bone can ever, ever justify becoming a totalitarian regime in the war against a totalitarian idea. I hope even you understand the absurdity.

And yes, there's a price to pay for freedom and yes, people have a tendency to go on with their life despite the horrible events. It basic psychology.

Have you?

twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/667371059885301761
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/omar-...83538 99658_1064491406936686#f35a375114f1288
http://nypost.com/2016/04/02/white-house-doctors-video-to-remove-islamic-terrorism-quote/

There's plenty of more that. The increase of right wing votes is generally still only small compared to the leftist-defeatist mentality that is spread far and wide especially in the mainstream media.

That's quite a mental leap you've made to totalitarianism, I did not say that at all. I also did not say people shouldn't go on with their lives, it seems you lack comprehension. All I said was people should demand action, not bend over to appease muslims.

 

[Seven]

So you agree that Saudi Arabia funds terrorism?

No, I said I don't know if Saudi Arabia funds terrorism. And frankly, I don't think you know either. So far you've proven yourself to be ignorant about pretty much everything, so I highly doubt you are suddenly going to come up with credible sources. But if you can, by all means, please do.

 

[Juliano13]

The post-factual phenomenon strikes again.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/12/how-technology-disrupted-the-truth?CMP=share_btn_tw

explain. What exactly don't you agree with?

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No, I said I don't know if Saudi Arabia funds terrorism. And frankly, I don't think you know either. So far you've proven yourself to be ignorant about pretty much everything, so I highly doubt you are suddenly going to come up with credible sources. But if you can, by all means, please do.

I gave you some of my sources. That's the problem with people like you. You ask for evidence and when you are presented with it, you ignore it and ask for more.

 

[Seven]

I gave you some of my sources. That's the problem with people like you. You ask for evidence and when you are presented with it, you ignore it and ask for more.

Have you actually read what those sources said?

Also, neither of them speaks about Saudi Arabia funded terrorism. They are about Iraq and whether or not Iraq had WMD's. Don't conflate the issues, please. It's hard enough for me to respond to one bullshit idea of yours at a time.

 

[Maddy]

Have you?

twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/667371059885301761
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/omar-...83538 99658_1064491406936686#f35a375114f1288
http://nypost.com/2016/04/02/white-house-doctors-video-to-remove-islamic-terrorism-quote/

There's plenty of more that. The increase of right wing votes is generally still only small compared to the leftist-defeatist mentality that is spread far and wide especially in the mainstream media.

That's quite a mental leap you've made to totalitarianism, I did not say that at all. I also did not say people shouldn't go on with their lives, it seems you lack comprehension. All I said was people should demand action, not bend over to appease muslims.

Deporting people based on their believes is totalitarianism

There needs to be serious action for this stuff i.e. anyone who is found to have links to ISIS or is found to support them should be deported, even if they are a natural citizen.

The mere fact you word it "to appease muslims" says it all. Most muslims find ISIS horrible and most victims of ISIS are muslims.

What is it you want a country like France to do? Without comprimising the ideas the country is based upon?

 

[ZoSo]

Deporting people based on their believes is totalitarianism

It doesn't mean it suddenly becomes a totalitarian state. It would also not be their belief, it would be links to a terrorist organisation by evidence and by support I mean like the people you see marching in a pro ISIS rally.

The mere fact you word it "to appease muslims" says it all. Most muslims find ISIS horrible and most victims of ISIS are muslims.

What is it you want a country like France to do? Without comprimising the ideas the country is based upon?

There are plenty that don't

http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795

Well I guess it's up to them isn't it? They can accept these attacks in the name of "diversity" and "freedom" or demand something be done.

 

[Juliano13]

Have you actually read what those sources said?

Also, neither of them speaks about Saudi Arabia funded terrorism. They are about Iraq and whether or not Iraq had WMD's. Don't conflate the issues, please. It's hard enough for me to respond to one bullshit idea of yours at a time.

You asked for sources about 2 different things.
I'm talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_terrorism#Saudi_Arabia and the sources numbered 107 to 130.

 

[Seven]

You asked for sources about 2 different things.
I'm talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_terrorism#Saudi_Arabia and the sources numbered 107 to 130.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

I like this part the best:
"In a report of UN Disengagement Observer Force is said that Israel cooperates with Syrian rebels[28] including ISIS and al-Qaeda.[29][30]"

 

[Juliano13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

I like this part the best:
"In a report of UN Disengagement Observer Force is said that Israel cooperates with Syrian rebels[28] including ISIS and al-Qaeda.[29][30]"

Whenever you confront a terrorist-apologist with some facts they start babbling about Israel and the Jews.

 

[Seven]

Whenever you confront a terrorist-apologist with some facts they start babbling about Israel and the Jews.

I'm not a terrorist apologist. I'm just saying we need to attack Israel, because it is cooperating with ISIS.

THIS WAS SARCASM BTW

 

[Juliano13]

I'm not a terrorist apologist. I'm just saying we need to attack Israel, because it is cooperating with ISIS.

THIS WAS SARCASM BTW

You certainly talk like a terrorist-apologist.

 

[Seven]

You certainly talk like a terrorist-apologist.

I think you're going to find that you are pretty alone in this sentiment. But yeah, you're also the guy who called me a muslim lover.

 

[Juliano13]

I think you're going to find that you are pretty alone in this sentiment. But yeah, you're also the guy who called me a muslim lover.

when?

 

[Maddy]

You certainly talk like a terrorist-apologist.

A post-factual internet kiddo strikes again.

[rant]

If you don't fit my bill, I'll just call you names"I know the truth about an extremely complicated matter and I've decided that the Iraq War was a good idea, because who knows? Maybe Saddam would have gotten his hands on Nuclear Weapons (despite him not being no where close) and he could have bombed the entire western world.

Yeah, screw all the evidence we have about a failed war that caused a mayhem in the middle east (Are there any one with academic credibility that denies this?) and the biggest refugee crisis since Hitler had a hard tiem getting a boner.

Screw the Chilcot report. It's just left wing pacifist bullshit ot at least I can ignore it if I just give it a fake bias.

Holy banana split of the ice cream world, you are simple-minded. It's okay to be wrong once in a while. The smartest people are often wrong.

Just look at the middle east, just look at the people who build ISIS. their organisation has clear Ba'athist-roots.

for fucks sake

I fucking hate the post-factual times we live in.

And yes, you find post factual retards in every single corner of every single political spectrum.

[rant over]

 

[Seven]

when?

Earlier, but I'm not looking it up, because tbh it doesn't matter. Called me an antisemite too, because I asked whether or not atheists could marry in Israel. But I'm willing to disregard all that. I have never condoned the behaviour of terrorists in this thread though. It is an absolutely ridiculous claim on your part and frankly I think it is going to earn you a place on my ignore list.

 

[Juliano13]

Earlier, but I'm not looking it up, because tbh it doesn't matter. Called me an antisemite too, because I asked whether or not atheists could marry in Israel. But I'm willing to disregard all that. I have never condoned the behaviour of terrorists in this thread though. It is an absolutely ridiculous claim on your part and frankly I think it is going to earn you a place on my ignore list.

Now, that I did call you.

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A post-factual internet kiddo strikes again.

[rant]

If you don't fit my bill, I'll just call you names"I know the truth about an extremely complicated matter and I've decided that the Iraq War was a good idea, because who knows? Maybe Saddam would have gotten his hands on Nuclear Weapons (despite him not being no where close) and he could have bombed the entire western world.

Yeah, screw all the evidence we have about a failed war that caused a mayhem in the middle east (Are there any one with academic credibility that denies this?) and the biggest refugee crisis since Hitler had a hard tiem getting a boner.

Screw the Chilcot report. It's just left wing pacifist bullshit ot at least I can ignore it if I just give it a fake bias.

Holy banana split of the ice cream world, you are simple-minded. It's okay to be wrong once in a while. The smartest people are often wrong.

Just look at the middle east, just look at the people who build ISIS. their organisation has clear Ba'athist-roots.

for fucks sake

I fucking hate the post-factual times we live in.

And yes, you find post factual retards in every single corner of every single political spectrum.

[rant over]

The roots of ISIS are Al-Qaeda in Iraq. I can't make heads or tails of the rest of that drivel.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

And may the retardation begin..

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Has there been any indication that he doesn't? It's the same with all the terrorist apologists. They are so engulfed by their blind hatred for America that you never actually hear them say the most obvious thing: the terrorists are to blame and killing civilians like this is not acceptable. You never hear them say it, or they only say it with so many ifs and buts, because they don't believe in it.

And in your case i know it won't end

 

[ZoSo]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/15/nice-terror-attack-truck

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