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Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
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Oh sorry. I don't think there's any problem though. Things seem to be under control and it's unlikely to have affected the flights and stuff. Don't worry :)
Yeah I think he's safe since his plane left 7 hours ago. But things are not in control. Reuters is reporting that Military claiming they have taken over.
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
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They must've been turned their back to America for the past 60 years then. I lost the count how many coups they have had in the period

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[video=twitter;754057266710638592]https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/754057266710638592[/video]
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,008
And how is that practical exactly? How are my parents for example supposed to weed out the bad apples? Kill them?
It's very practical, much more so than an outside force trying to create change. We've seen how well dropping random bombs works. We need upstanding muslims across the world to rise up and become passionate about spreading peace instead of delusional extremist rhetoric. It seems as though some of these folks are already at war, so they need to win the war. Instead, it appears that many moderate muslims are afraid to tackle extremism head-on. Add in the appeasement towards radical Islam from the west, and you have a total nightmare coming for us in the next 10 years.

Christianity had a reformation; so does Islam.

I could have sworn that you were the one who brought up the US in this thread.
That was the other guy.

And may the retardation begin..

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Has there been any indication that he doesn't? It's the same with all the terrorist apologists. They are so engulfed by their blind hatred for America that you never actually hear them say the most obvious thing: the terrorists are to blame and killing civilians like this is not acceptable. You never hear them say it, or they only say it with so many ifs and buts, because they don't believe in it.
I don't think X hates America. In fact, I know he doesn't since he lives here. I like X, but he seemingly is really passionate about Islam. Other folks here and elsewhere that are apologists are certainly rooting for the deaths.

Too much work haven't followed much. But if people blame the West again, they can go $#@! themselves. Let's us see if this is another person who grew up in the West. The "blame the West game" is is ridicolous. It still baffles me that people here says black people in America are whiny children, but are calling muslims victims. Where's all the terrorist attacks from Asia?
So he's French :howler: People should stop making excuses. ISIS kills and $#@!s all ethnicities. Well-educated people join them too. People who grew up in comforting countries. People should stop making excuses.
:tup:

Like I said, it's mental illness. That whole retarded argument of "give them free stuff" to thwart their ideology when some are highly educated just goes to show how delusional some pundits are nowadays. But that's part of their overall propaganda to solve all world affairs -- you can essentially solve everything by giving out free handouts. They're complete 'tards who have no common sense whatsoever.

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I agree with your reasoning, but what proof of this funding do you have?
Hopefully we have it from the 28 pages. But even then, there's proof of massive trades of US Treasuries by Saudis before 9/11 10X against normal volume.

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Well, there are several things that have to be looked into.

What the US did to Iraq was a disgrace. With a far bigger toll on human life than these attacks will ever have. Frankly, I'd like to see the people responsible for this brought to justice.
I don't know many people who don't. Obviously those freaks during the Bush era should be in jail. Now the Democrats are using what they did as a excuse to do the same, albeit not on the same scale as Iraq.

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You certainly talk like a terrorist-apologist.
:lol:
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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It's very practical, much more so than an outside force trying to create change. We've seen how well dropping random bombs works. We need upstanding muslims across the world to rise up and become passionate about spreading peace instead of delusional extremist rhetoric. It seems as though some of these folks are already at war, so they need to win the war. Instead, it appears that many moderate muslims are afraid to tackle extremism head-on. Add in the appeasement towards radical Islam from the west, and you have a total nightmare coming for us in the next 10 years.

Christianity had a reformation; so does Islam.

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There are thousands of clerics around the globe standing up and fighting it. Now can we have upstanding American citizens around the world rise up and stop the drone attacks killing civilians around the world? Or get that idiot who took you to war, got hundreds of thousands killed, including your own and completely wreck an already fucked up region based on a lie? Or at the very least stop him from dancing at memorial services? Accountability has to work both ways. Thank you.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...france-terror-second-time-paris-a7138071.html
This guy just can't catch a break. It's funny and sad at the same time.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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Been looking for this for a while finally found it

Nation of peace

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icemaη;5320613 said:
There are thousands of clerics around the globe standing up and fighting it. Now can we have upstanding American citizens around the world rise up and stop the drone attacks killing civilians around the world? Or get that idiot who took you to war, got hundreds of thousands killed, including your own and completely wreck an already fucked up region based on a lie? Or at the very least stop him from dancing at memorial services? Accountability has to work both ways. Thank you.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...france-terror-second-time-paris-a7138071.html
This guy just can't catch a break. It's funny and sad at the same time.
:tup::tup:
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
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@swag

A read you might find interesting.

This is not a counsel of despair. There are almost certainly things European countries could be doing to better mitigate the threats they face. But as we have discovered over the past 15 years, figuring out what those things are is not a remotely straightforward task. It will involve considerable trial, error, and patience on numerous fronts. In the meantime, further attacks are inevitable.
http://quillette.com/2016/07/16/flag-shaming-in-response-to-terrorism/
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
It's very practical, much more so than an outside force trying to create change. We've seen how well dropping random bombs works. We need upstanding muslims across the world to rise up and become passionate about spreading peace instead of delusional extremist rhetoric. It seems as though some of these folks are already at war, so they need to win the war. Instead, it appears that many moderate muslims are afraid to tackle extremism head-on. Add in the appeasement towards radical Islam from the west, and you have a total nightmare coming for us in the next 10 years.

Christianity had a reformation; so does Islam.
You understand how insubstantial and abstract your suggestion is? "Rise up", "become passionate", even upstanding "muslims", because which muslims are you talking about: people, scholars, or heads of governments? In Europe or in the middle-east? They are so many and so different, and what do you mean by rising up, like protesting?

Btw, it seems all that connects the Nice attacker to Islam is his name. He was not even practicing Islam, apparently a loner with a few petty criminal records with zero connection to any Islamic extremist group, and no extremist group has claimed responsibility either (although ISIS has praised him).
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Isis did claim the attack
They called him a soldier but there is no evidence suggesting he was contacted/trained by them. In their statement there's no sign of claiming the attack by ISIS.

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Slacktivism has its own cons though, especially for the matters in which people can indeed do something/make a change. In fact those who express sadness or anger on the internet are less likely to actually engage in behavior (donating time or money for example) that help the very cause they are talking about online, because they feel they have done their share. In many other horrific situations though there's not much we can do so changing profile pics to flags and lighting candles etc (although sometimes done only for self-presentational purposes) can be people's way of dealing with a tragedy, but no matter what one does, whether they change their profile picture to a flag or not, whether they send their prayers or not, whether they criticize too much or too little, people always have something bad to say about it.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
I see it differently. "In response to calls" sounds like a hypothetical phrase rather than a factual one to me. I think they claim something they had not organized, especially comparing it to their previous statements. I may be wrong.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Isis is losing the ground battle and turning away would be recruits, they will morph into al qaeda like, but for now they will create as much 'buzz' as possible to cover up their failings on the ground and pave the way for their new identity.
 

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