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They called him a soldier but there is no evidence suggesting he was contacted/trained by them. In their statement there's no sign of claiming the attack by ISIS.

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Slacktivism has its own cons though, especially for the matters in which people can indeed do something/make a change. In fact those who express sadness or anger on the internet are less likely to actually engage in behavior (donating time or money for example) that help the very cause they are talking about online, because they feel they have done their share. In many other horrific situations though there's not much we can do so changing profile pics to flags and lighting candles etc (although sometimes done only for self-presentational purposes) can be people's way of dealing with a tragedy, but no matter what one does, whether they change their profile picture to a flag or not, whether they send their prayers or not, whether they criticize too much or too little, people always have something bad to say about it.
reports that he sent 100,000$ to family in Tunisia right before the attack. Someone paid him to do it
 

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Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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This is as clear a claim as can be

A couple of weeks ago they called for individuals everywhere to commit lone wolf attacks, so that's what they probably meant by "calls to target citizens of coalition nations".

So far there has been nothing to indicate that he actually was in contact with ISIS, or that his motivation was actually connected to ISIS.
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
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Any innocent person who is killed is a victim. Those who were killed in Baghdad couple of weeks ago and those who were killed today. Any person who is wronged without having deserved it is also a victim. A Muslim who is blamed/harassed/criticized/expected to apologize/expected to do something for what he/she hasn't done is also a victim. Those who kill are not victims, they are criminals, muslim or not. Fine?

Now if you think we've settled that part, who do you think is at fault except of course the suicide bomber?

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Saudi and Qatar, you mean the civilized world's allies?

No one should apologize. I blame the person who did this. I blame the people who do this every day, because others don't live by their narrative.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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A couple of weeks ago they called for individuals everywhere to commit lone wolf attacks, so that's what they probably meant by "calls to target citizens of coalition nations".

So far there has been nothing to indicate that he actually was in contact with ISIS, or that his motivation was actually connected to ISIS.
Which makes the entire thing more scary imo. Isis means nothing in the grand scheme or things. Their objectives are utter nonsense and completely unachievable. But if the crazies start doing shit like this.. Well, there are a lot of crazy people out there.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I was talking about the blame game. These countries can't function without a dictator. Too much sectarianism and tribalism.
As weird as it may sound, I sort of agree with that. Most Iraqi refugees I helped had problems with other tribes btw. Sure, they had religious differences with those people too, but in fact a lot of the weren't even practising muslims. Tribal issues were the first thing they spoke of.
 

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