New Juve scandal: Moggi talking to referees (37 Viewers)

[ReBeL]

More and more Juve ex and current players are being mentioned in the different websites claiming there are suspected deals behind bringing most of them to Juve...

The latest one is from Gazzetta:

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Davide Baiocco, il 31 gennaio del 2002, passò dal Perugia alla Juventus cambiando procuratore e affidandosi ad Alessandro Moggi. E fu il suo ex agente, Gianni Allegrini, a denunciare che il centrocampista sarebbe stato costretto a disdire il mandato durante la trattativa. Baiocco ha, tuttavia, precisato di non aver ricevuto pressioni da alcuno. Quanto a Manuele Blasi, fu Luciano Gaucci a raccontare che la Juve lo voleva assieme a Fabrizio Miccoli e così tra l'estate del 2002 e il gennaio 2004, a suo dire, venne ideato un movimento di calciatori tra Perugia e Torino. Nel mirino dei magistrati della capitale anche la cessione di Giovanni Tedesco dal Perugia al Genoa; i pm vogliono verificare, tra l'altro, il presunto avvicinamento del calciatore da parte di Alessandro Moggi nel periodo in cui era sotto contratto con altri procuratori. Gli inquirenti sono interessati, infine, alle dichiarazioni dell’ex centrocampista del Perugia Fabio Gatti. In particolare per quanto riguarda Gatti ci sarebbero anche aspetti che riguardano il suo trasferimento al Napoli in questa stagione.

 

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Translation plz

 

[isha00]

More and more Juve ex and current players are being mentioned in the different websites claiming there are suspected deals behind bringing most of them to Juve...

The latest one is from Gazzetta:

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Davide Baiocco, il 31 gennaio del 2002, passò dal Perugia alla Juventus cambiando procuratore e affidandosi ad Alessandro Moggi. E fu il suo ex agente, Gianni Allegrini, a denunciare che il centrocampista sarebbe stato costretto a disdire il mandato durante la trattativa. Baiocco ha, tuttavia, precisato di non aver ricevuto pressioni da alcuno. Quanto a Manuele Blasi, fu Luciano Gaucci a raccontare che la Juve lo voleva assieme a Fabrizio Miccoli e così tra l'estate del 2002 e il gennaio 2004, a suo dire, venne ideato un movimento di calciatori tra Perugia e Torino. Nel mirino dei magistrati della capitale anche la cessione di Giovanni Tedesco dal Perugia al Genoa; i pm vogliono verificare, tra l'altro, il presunto avvicinamento del calciatore da parte di Alessandro Moggi nel periodo in cui era sotto contratto con altri procuratori. Gli inquirenti sono interessati, infine, alle dichiarazioni dell’ex centrocampista del Perugia Fabio Gatti. In particolare per quanto riguarda Gatti ci sarebbero anche aspetti che riguardano il suo trasferimento al Napoli in questa stagione.

This seems more a Gea problem that a Juventus' one.

EDIT: Baiocco's ex agent says the player has been forced to sign some kind of contract, he denies it.
There has been an agreement between Juve and Perugia in the Miccoli Blasi affair (So?).
There are some investigations on the transfer of ex Perugia captain Tedesco to Genoa, they want to check if Alessandro Moggi has contacted him when he had some other managers.
About Fabio Gatti, investigators are curious about some of his statements and about his transfer to Napoli this season.

(I don't know if it's the article or me, but if it did gave me an hell of a headache reading it! Who writes these things?)

 

[isha00]

Moggi (+ Bettega, Capello and Ciro) has been interviewed by Striscia La Notizia. What really impressed me is that at a point, when he told the Striscia guy that we are in press silence and to please leave him alone, that he couldn't do this, his voice was of a man on the verge of tears. And I asked myself: would a guilty Moggi look like this?

 

[ZAF3000]

I beleive that Moggi is sacrificing currenlty himself in order that the club can stay focused on winning the scudetto. That is called class and leadership.
I do have a feeling that on Sunday Moggi will explode and I really can't wait for this to happen.
The problem is, because Juve are on a press silence these rumors about Moggi resigning are very worrying. I really hope they are all wrong. Moggi's resignation does not mean that he is guilty, it could mean that he is fed up with all this crap.

 

[arc]

my inter frd sent me tis

 

[Roma > Juve]

funny because i am pretty damned sure juve won more scudetti than roma before moggi came, won more scudetti when moggi was at the clubd and guess what....we will win more scudetti than roma after moggi leaves, its the clubs glory, not moggi's...so in the words of my friend rab...soap it

What kind of scudetti??? Serie C2 scudetto? Serie C Cup?

 

[Tifoso]

We have never been out of Serie A (or Inter, either)...

You must be confused with Roma

 

[swag]

my inter frd sent me tis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuLIyB56wAo&search=Juventus

Let's see... why is it that we can't name all the scorers in Inter's 3-0 loss to finish their CL participation last season?...

Hmm.... let me think....

 

[Matteo..]

Moggi (+ Bettega, Capello and Ciro) has been interviewed by Striscia La Notizia. What really impressed me is that at a point, when he told the Striscia guy that we are in press silence and to please leave him alone, that he couldn't do this, his voice was of a man on the verge of tears. And I asked myself: would a guilty Moggi look like this?

Well yeah. The guy's called 'furbo' for a reason.

 

[AzherIqbal]

FIGC Vice-President Mazzini resigns Wednesday 10 May, 2006

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After FIGC President Franco Carraro, it was confirmed this evening that Vice-President Innocenzo Mazzini has also resigned.

The Federation released an official statement announcing the decision to hand in his resignation following the growing scandal surrounding Juventus.


Bianconeri director general Luciano Moggi’s alleged telephone conversations with refereeing designator Pierluigi Pairetto were recorded by investigators and printed in newspapers in Italy last week.


“My current state of mind in personal and federal terms is extremely uncomfortable,” explained Mazzini.


“As a citizen and a man of sport, I have not been hit by disciplinary action, or a legal challenge Nonetheless, I feel it best to leave now and clarify any misunderstanding.”


The Federation has come under increasing pressure as a result of the telephone interception allegations which has brought into question the credibility of the Italian game.


Although Carraro pledged that the “sporting justice system would act quickly and with vigour,” he threw in the towel on Monday.


“The Federation’s commitment in the coming days and months are so many and large that it will need a management that is fully able to fulfil its functions and concentrate on itself,” he stated.


Carraro’s decision to step down, which he was set to do later this year anyway, has seen Vice-President Giancarlo Abete automatically promoted to the top job.

From Football Italia

 

[The Arif]

Not to mention how your pathetic defenders tried to break Totti's legs during the Coppa Italia ... but that is not really proof, after all, with the amount of talent Juve's defenders have, it is difficult to tackle Totti properly ...

Yeah, and Moggi paid the player who injured Totti to break his leg.


Why would Juve defenders want to break Totti's legs?? After all, Roma isn't a contender for Scudeto. Oh yes, sorry, I forgot, we risk losing Coppa Italia to Roma.

 

[Tifoso]

Yeah, and Moggi paid the player who injured Totti to break his leg.


Why would Juve defenders want to break Totti's legs?? After all, Roma isn't a contender for Scudeto. Oh yes, sorry, I forgot, we risk losing Coppa Italia to Roma.

 

[isha00]

What kind of scudetti??? Serie C2 scudetto? Serie C Cup?

Oh, santiddio!

 

[isha00]

Well yeah. The guy's called 'furbo' for a reason.

Sure he's furbo, but he didn't know the camera was still on.
Anyway, other than the fact that he may be worried about his son, from the scripts (and especially from the judge's verdict) I don't see what he should be furbo about.
Those words he said will be interpreted by anti-juventini as a clear confession..

 

[The Arif]

Take away Moggi ... Juve never wins again ...

And who won 22 Scudettos when Moggi wasn't at Juventus? God was our general director or what ?

 

[ReBeL]

Roma fans are the easiest type to get rid of...

My reply to our guest here is

"Check the history of Juve before Moggi was even born!!!"

Isn't it better than what Roma got until now??

 

[The Arif]

Roma fans are the easiest type to get rid of...

My reply to our guest here is

"Check the history of Juve before Moggi was even born!!!"

Isn't it better than what Roma got until now??

You gotta ask them first if they heard about Google yet.

 

[Matteo..]

Sure he's furbo, but he didn't know the camera was still on.
Anyway, other than the fact that he may be worried about his son, from the scripts (and especially from the judge's verdict) I don't see what he should be furbo about.
Those words he said will be interpreted by anti-juventini as a clear confession..

I think Moggi's playing a character every second of his days now. He's trying to influence to people that have contact with him, regardless the fact the camera's still on or not. Could you explain his son's role to me a bit further? I've read bits and pieces about Alessandro in la gazzetta, but I mostly skipped those parts.

PS: how come your English is so good? TBH the Italians I've met mostly spoke poorly.

 

[isha00]

I think Moggi's playing a character every second of his days now. He's trying to influence to people that have contact with him, regardless the fact the camera's still on or not. Could you explain his son's role to me a bit further? I've read bits and pieces about Alessandro in la gazzetta, but I mostly skipped those parts.

PS: how come your English is so good? TBH the Italians I've met mostly spoke poorly.

What should really worry Moggi now is not really Juventus (if you don't count the media, that are treating him like he was Hitler), 'cause everything was archived with the motivation that there was proof he didn't control refs.
The problems are the cases they have open (in Napoli and Rome) on his son's players&coaches managers company (GEA). They are investigating on how he controlled a bit too much the market, you know, controlling both sides of football. He may be acquitted, who knows, but still these cases are open and his is gone.
But, again, while the Juventus case is under the spotlight (Milan has still some chances to win the scudetto and they are putting every effort in it), the Gea one is not that considered. For the Gea case he sure will get the best italian lawyers, but he can nothing against the media (other than sueing them for violation of the constitutional rights) and the media are really cutting him into pieces. I'm sure it's not easy even for a furbo like Moggi.


My English? It was not that good till some years ago. In fact, like you said, many Italians speak a poor English. It's probably because you can't learn a language in school properly, without a chance to practice it (and I don't think it's become obligatory learning it so many years ago. My mom, for example, had 2 years of french instead).
Anyway, I'm a TV shows lover, and, when I was 14 (that would mean 5 years ago) I started reading about them on the net in English. At first I didn't understand a thing, but, with the time, I thaught myself.
Thanks, btw.