New Juve scandal: Moggi talking to referees (21 Viewers)

Maher

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Dec 16, 2002
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I have a feeling that it might not as bad as we think , we will not be relegated , they will not have enough evidence for that , look at capello comments about this issue when he said that we will laugh about this issue later and i will stay , if he know that it is seriuos iam sure that he will be the first to leave.
 

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m_elayyan said:
I have a feeling that it might not as bad as we think , we will not be relegated , they will not have enough evidence for that , look at capello comments about this issue when he said that we will laugh about this issue later and i will stay , if he know that it is seriuos iam sure that he will be the first to leave.

Be prepared for Inter to be awarded the Scudetto.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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vlatko said:
capello had to say that, what was he supposed to say? see you in serie b juve, thank you and good luck?
Now is the time we're going to see the class separated from the wankers who don't deserve their Juve stripes. Character comes out when it's being tested.

Capello, as much as I want the guy out, said some things that show he has class. Sure, it would have been improper for him to suggest otherwise ("Hey, I'm liking Mancini's job all the more now!"). But points to Capello not only because of what he said, but also for how he said it.

I have much lower expectations, on the other hand, from several Juve players -- particularly a couple of recent acquisitions to remain nameless.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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You know as much as I dislike Capello's tactics on the field, I have to say, for once he showed some class. Of course, actions speak louder than words, and I'd really like to see his stance once our situation is cleared up. Either way, when all is said and perhaps done, I think Juventus will continue to embody the spirit and mentality we have for these years.
Touching upon the possible consequences, I'd have to say that even 'if' we're docked points or stripped off the title, it should'nt be assigned to anybody. Not because Milan or Inter dont deserve it, but because the entire system for those years would be messed up. The problem isnt just at the top but from the top through the bottom. Going to Serie B, C1 or even C2 doesnt change anything for me personally. I support the club, not their fortune. And as far as I'm concerned, I believe the players toiled and sweat it out on the field to get the job done, without being in the know that there were 'higher powers' at work, if indeed there were at all. We may not have played with the flair of Milan or the pace of Inter, but that doesn't discount the fact that we were more consistent and managed to hang in there when the going was tough. At the end of the day, we truly deserve every bit of the success that has come our way.
 

JCK

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baggio said:
You know as much as I dislike Capello's tactics on the field, I have to say, for once he showed some class. Of course, actions speak louder than words, and I'd really like to see his stance once our situation is cleared up. Either way, when all is said and perhaps done, I think Juventus will continue to embody the spirit and mentality we have for these years.
Touching upon the possible consequences, I'd have to say that even 'if' we're docked points or stripped off the title, it should'nt be assigned to anybody. Not because Milan or Inter dont deserve it, but because the entire system for those years would be messed up. The problem isnt just at the top but from the top through the bottom. Going to Serie B, C1 or even C2 doesnt change anything for me personally. I support the club, not their fortune. And as far as I'm concerned, I believe the players toiled and sweat it out on the field to get the job done, without being in the know that there were 'higher powers' at work, if indeed there were at all. We may not have played with the flair of Milan or the pace of Inter, but that doesn't discount the fact that we were more consistent and managed to hang in there when the going was tough. At the end of the day, we truly deserve every bit of the success that has come our way.
Not that I did not admire how he spoke but it is justified. With all his bad sides, Capello is a professional and he has a good political approach. In the situation the club is in, Capello is part of it and all he can do is stand with the club.
 

denco

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Jul 12, 2002
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Capello is still contracted to the club , he just won the scudetto 2 days ago so how can he possibly say anything different from what he has said. What exactly is classy in that? He would have to be the scum of the earth to kick the club when they are down. I mean what would future employers think of him if he states in public that we are cheats when still under our employ. Its what he does in private we should be worried about. If we are sanctioned and he still remains then he is utterly classy but until then what he has done is what any normal person will do.
 

Matteo..

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Apr 30, 2006
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As I feared, the first thing that's on Moggi's mind is defending his son. He already said stuff like "whatever I did, I did it for Juventus" and "Milan have their media, we don't, so I tried to protect us.". Quite frankly that does not look good.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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denco said:
Capello is still contracted to the club , he just won the scudetto 2 days ago so how can he possibly say anything different from what he has said. What exactly is classy in that? He would have to be the scum of the earth to kick the club when they are down. I mean what would future employers think of him if he states in public that we are cheats when still under our employ. Its what he does in private we should be worried about. If we are sanctioned and he still remains then he is utterly classy but until then what he has done is what any normal person will do.

It's one thing to speak well off his players, but it's completely another to have stood up and silenced Berlusconi the way he did. It may just be that he doesn't want the team to lose the titles won under him. But, the fact remains that he's showed support for the players, the staff and the club and reiterated his desire to be here despite these circumstances. Fact is, the season is over and he can make his move, but from the look of things it seems otherwise. Like I said though, actions speak louder than words and if god forbid, we are faced with sanctions, and he still chooses to honour his contract, then I would applaud the man I consider a mercenary.
 

V

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Jun 8, 2005
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i think capello got more attached to this squad than he first thought would be possible. especially with the players, don't know why but i was always under the impression these guys were the best he coached. he was always full or praise and at difficult times always sticked with the squad. though he has a ruthless reputation i am under the impression he has really grown attached to these players and things he said in his latest interview actually came from the heart, not cuz of some obligation towards his contract. of course that could just be me and he said what he said cuz he had no other choice, but i wish to think the opposite, cuz quite frankly i always liked him.
 

denco

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Jul 12, 2002
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baggio said:
It's one thing to speak well off his players, but it's completely another to have stood up and silenced Berlusconi the way he did. It may just be that he doesn't want the team to lose the titles won under him. But, the fact remains that he's showed support for the players, the staff and the club and reiterated his desire to be here despite these circumstances. Fact is, the season is over and he can make his move, but from the look of things it seems otherwise. Like I said though, actions speak louder than words and if god forbid, we are faced with sanctions, and he still chooses to honour his contract, then I would applaud the man I consider a mercenary.
Are you forgetting or were you unaware that during his first stint at Milan, Berlusconi did not renew his contract and thats why he went to Real Madrid and in his second stint he was fired or was replaced. He and Berlusconi never saw eye to eye as regards to style of play and the major bone of contention at the time was Savicevic whom Capello was loathe to use. Anyways like i said he si stillunder contract and we have not been punished yet and if by some minor miracle we do not get punished,how will he then look to his players and the new board then? Also which of these players would wanna follow him to his new club if it comes to that if he did say bad about the club. I am not trying to say he is good or bad but what he did was perfectly logical
 

Maher

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Dec 16, 2002
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swag said:
Now is the time we're going to see the class separated from the wankers who don't deserve their Juve stripes. Character comes out when it's being tested.

Capello, as much as I want the guy out, said some things that show he has class. Sure, it would have been improper for him to suggest otherwise ("Hey, I'm liking Mancini's job all the more now!"). But points to Capello not only because of what he said, but also for how he said it.

I have much lower expectations, on the other hand, from several Juve players -- particularly a couple of recent acquisitions to remain nameless.
you mean zlatan:D
 

ZhiXin

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Oct 1, 2004
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I just saw an interview and Moggi said that he doesn't have the mood and energy to answer any questions to the press. He just wants to defend himself. This is from ESPN supersports.

About Capello, don't count ur chickens b4 they hatch. He has a reputation of saying things and not doing it. Action is louder than words.
 

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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baggio said:
It's one thing to speak well off his players, but it's completely another to have stood up and silenced Berlusconi the way he did. It may just be that he doesn't want the team to lose the titles won under him. But, the fact remains that he's showed support for the players, the staff and the club and reiterated his desire to be here despite these circumstances. Fact is, the season is over and he can make his move, but from the look of things it seems otherwise. Like I said though, actions speak louder than words and if god forbid, we are faced with sanctions, and he still chooses to honour his contract, then I would applaud the man I consider a mercenary.
agreed spot on on all counts
 

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