Nations vs Countries! (7 Viewers)

[abejaa]

Do nations make countries or Countries make nations! i'd like to know your opinion!

 

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[The Curr]

Explain the question a little better, please.

 

[Osman]

Two synonyms for the same thing. So whats with the semantics?

 

[abejaa]

A nation implies a group of one people, language, religion, culture etc. (ex. Germany, Ireland, Sioux).

A country is a political unit without one set national culture (Canada, Australia, USA etc.)

 

[Ford Prefect]

Are you therefor asking about the relationship between nationality and the concept of the nation/country?

 

[swag]

Two great tastes in one...

 

[The Curr]

A nation implies a group of one people, language, religion, culture etc. (ex. Germany, Ireland, Sioux).

A country is a political unit without one set national culture (Canada, Australia, USA etc.)

Pretty bad example.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Ireland has a lot of culture....

 

[swag]

Let me take this thread seriously for a second and throw out a polarized viewpoint.

Countries are the way of the future. Nations provide a lot of backbone for national identity. But in this era of globalization, immigration, etc., the migration of peoples is unstoppable. Anti-immigrant sentiment is a last gasp death rattle of national identity giving way to the inevitability of diverse populations and global migration. It's going to only get more entangled the more people of different races, religions, and ethnic backgrounds keep boinking each other.

The only renewable asset a given nation, or country, has of its people is in its country -- not national -- aspirations. Ideas will win out over bloodlines in time. It's been in progress for decades if not centuries now.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

Do nations make countries or Countries make nations! i'd like to know your opinion!

nations make countries. except in africa, in africa england make countries

 

[Ford Prefect]

nations make countries. except in africa, in africa england make countries

And France, Germany, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Italy. Britain commited far less attrocities and introduced a lot of good for the countries we ran.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

imperialistic western european nations, i know, but england sounded wittier

 

[JBF]

And France, Germany, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Italy. Britain commited far less attrocities and introduced a lot of good for the countries we ran.

Yea especially to Palestine.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Yea especially to Palestine.

When Palestine becomes a part of Africa we can discuss it in the same context.

 

[IrishZebra]

A country is a geographic territory

A nation is a group with shared ethnic cultural and social experiences/traits

A NATION-STATE is a defined geographic area over which a government holds sovereignty i.e. a monopoly on the use of force, has a permanent population and egages in external relations.

That from a student of the subject, I hope that helped.

 

[JBF]

When Palestine becomes a part of Africa we can discuss it in the same context.

And France, Germany, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Italy. Britain commited far less attrocities and introduced a lot of good for the countries we ran.

Just make sure you write African before "countries" next time.

 

[IrishZebra]

And France, Germany, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Italy. Britain commited far less attrocities and introduced a lot of good for the countries we ran.

Ahem

 

[Ford Prefect]

Just make sure you write African before "countries" next time.

I was speaking in context of africa. I didnt want to include the world...i know what happened in India. Irish, have a look at what france, italy and portugal did.

 

[Osman]

The brits were fucking imperialistic devils, did good in my ass.

 

[IrishZebra]

I was speaking in context of africa. I didnt want to include the world...i know what happened in India. Irish, have a look at what france, italy and portugal did.

Can you do more than rape and murder ???