Nationality debate (1 Viewer)
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To me, eligibility should be limited to actual citizenship. Either you play where you were born/have original citizenship, or the citizenship of a direct living relative (ie: Parent, Grandparent).
Situations like Amauri, Jonathan De Guzman, Roger Guerreiro or Alessandro dos Santos should not be allowed. Just because you play in a foreign league shouldn't mean should be able to play for that country, even if you acquire their citizenship.
Situations like Balotelli and Mavuba make total sense, and really shouldn't be scrutinized.
Situations like Hargreaves, Adu and Rossi are regrettable, but definitely acceptable. Eiher they have blood ties to their new NT, or they had citizenship before they entered the football world.
Situations like Amauri, Jonathan De Guzman, Roger Guerreiro or Alessandro dos Santos should not be allowed. Just because you play in a foreign league shouldn't mean should be able to play for that country, even if you acquire their citizenship.
Situations like Balotelli and Mavuba make total sense, and really shouldn't be scrutinized.
Situations like Hargreaves, Adu and Rossi are regrettable, but definitely acceptable. Eiher they have blood ties to their new NT, or they had citizenship before they entered the football world.
FIFA already picks and chooses about citizenship. If I'm a dual citizen of Canada and the United States, why should I have to choose only one if my citizenship is equal? Maybe Canada needs me more... but lets say there's a new coach, and he's an asshole, and they release me from the team, why can't I continue with the US if they want me?
Players should be encouraged to get dual citizenship especially if they are non-EU to help mitigate any immigration/foreign worker issues. However, that shouldn't entitle you to parachute into a strong NT as a professional.
Perhaps what FIFA should do is require all youth players before they sign their first pro contract to declare their nation out of their allowed options, even if they never get to play for them.
I included grandparents because sometimes there would be cases that the parents are deceased, or something like that.
Players should be encouraged to get dual citizenship especially if they are non-EU to help mitigate any immigration/foreign worker issues. However, that shouldn't entitle you to parachute into a strong NT as a professional.
Perhaps what FIFA should do is require all youth players before they sign their first pro contract to declare their nation out of their allowed options, even if they never get to play for them.
I included grandparents because sometimes there would be cases that the parents are deceased, or something like that.
Right now, there's no stopping any of those, or #4, playing in foreign league for 3-5 years.
You really can't tighten all the loopholes, but really just get rid of the one where there's the clearest exploitation... parachuting in an established, uncapped player. With most players, they are born and raised in the same country, and their parents have the same ethnicity.
The real losers are places like Canada and the US, since they are heavily immigrant based, and even second generation citizens have clear ties to a foreign nation or nations.
You really can't tighten all the loopholes, but really just get rid of the one where there's the clearest exploitation... parachuting in an established, uncapped player. With most players, they are born and raised in the same country, and their parents have the same ethnicity.
The real losers are places like Canada and the US, since they are heavily immigrant based, and even second generation citizens have clear ties to a foreign nation or nations.
Okay sorry if you where offended and yes i should not generalize..
I have nothing against amarican as I said, I just dont see how people can say Rossi is american !..
A home dosent say what you are.. My home is in Denmark, but that dosent make me Danish.. I also have a home i Kosovo.. That dosent make me Albanian.. My blood does!
How can you compere the Podolski thing.. Podolski had a BIG reason NOT to celebrate, the guy is POLISH!.. He just holds an German passport witch does he is able to play for the German NT!.. Like if Rossi had really chosen USA and scored against Italy, im sure he would have done as Podolski, NO celebration after a goal!!..
I have nothing against amarican as I said, I just dont see how people can say Rossi is american !..
A home dosent say what you are.. My home is in Denmark, but that dosent make me Danish.. I also have a home i Kosovo.. That dosent make me Albanian.. My blood does!
How can you compere the Podolski thing.. Podolski had a BIG reason NOT to celebrate, the guy is POLISH!.. He just holds an German passport witch does he is able to play for the German NT!.. Like if Rossi had really chosen USA and scored against Italy, im sure he would have done as Podolski, NO celebration after a goal!!..
Absolutely they do, but not to the extent that the US and Canada do. Canada apparently has the largest yearly immigration rate of any large country. In Canada, only 23% of respondents in the 2006 census declared themselves exclusively Canadian. Another 17% declared themselves something else, and then Canadian. The remaining 60% consider themselves their ethnicity. 23% of Canadians immigrated to Canada in the last 25 years, and something like two-thirds of Canada can trace themselves back to their ethnic origin within two generations and in most cases, be eligible for citizenship to their "home country."
I'm second generation Canadian, I've never lived a day in Italy or Germany, but I could have EU citizenship in no time if I so desired through both those ancestral countries. That's an issue the European countries simply don't have, at least not to that degree.
I'm second generation Canadian, I've never lived a day in Italy or Germany, but I could have EU citizenship in no time if I so desired through both those ancestral countries. That's an issue the European countries simply don't have, at least not to that degree.
First of all, we were in an unique situation, and we couldn't keep all of our star players. So some of them were bound to leave, and the board pushed them, some of them had the class to not go to our direct rivals, and even worse to Inter. While I don't care about that in Ibra or Veira situation, because i don't like them and i wouldn't want them here.
You talk as if you know what was behind the scenes, maybe our board pushed Cannavaro out, maybe not, who knows? Fact is he didn't went to our rivals. I would like to add that i don't hate Zambrotta or any other player for that matter, it is just that i wouldn't want them playing here in our team. And in a perfect world we would have signed someoen younger and better than Canna, but it's not perfect is it? And I certainly wont be booing him, and will cheering, because despite of the past events he now is a Juve player.
Anyway, professional football is their job, and they went for the best offer. And it is stupid to think that their judgment should only be based on their alligience to the team they play.
Me not wanting Ibra and Veira has nothing to do with their "betrayal".
You talk as if you know what was behind the scenes, maybe our board pushed Cannavaro out, maybe not, who knows? Fact is he didn't went to our rivals. I would like to add that i don't hate Zambrotta or any other player for that matter, it is just that i wouldn't want them playing here in our team. And in a perfect world we would have signed someoen younger and better than Canna, but it's not perfect is it? And I certainly wont be booing him, and will cheering, because despite of the past events he now is a Juve player.
Anyway, professional football is their job, and they went for the best offer. And it is stupid to think that their judgment should only be based on their alligience to the team they play.
Me not wanting Ibra and Veira has nothing to do with their "betrayal".