Nationality debate (1 Viewer)
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I know, I saw your story in the other thread.
Anyway, if it had been me maybe I'd feel the same way. But this was in 2003 and Camo has done a lot for us since then, so I'm not gonna castigate him now. And even if he is something of a jackass I wonder if it's a great idea to disown him because after calciopoli we have to make do, we're not swimming in world class players knocking our door down.
Anyway, if it had been me maybe I'd feel the same way. But this was in 2003 and Camo has done a lot for us since then, so I'm not gonna castigate him now. And even if he is something of a jackass I wonder if it's a great idea to disown him because after calciopoli we have to make do, we're not swimming in world class players knocking our door down.
I'm of the belief that I would rather have a good player who is a great human being, than a great player who is a first class asshole.
Which is why, in light of recent situations, you will notice that I am no longer as ardent a supporter of Ibrahimovic as I used to be.
At first I thought he was "colorful", now he's just a douchebag.
Here in the states, its called the "Terrell Owens" effect
Which is why, in light of recent situations, you will notice that I am no longer as ardent a supporter of Ibrahimovic as I used to be.
At first I thought he was "colorful", now he's just a douchebag.
Here in the states, its called the "Terrell Owens" effect
Well Camo is on his way out anyway. Can't be more than a season or two left, your pain will end.
Ibra.. I never liked him for the same reasons you've mentioned, but I don't really care what he's doing. After he left I was pleased he wasn't our problem anymore, and from there on we could still enjoy the good things, the nice goals, without the baggage.
Ibra.. I never liked him for the same reasons you've mentioned, but I don't really care what he's doing. After he left I was pleased he wasn't our problem anymore, and from there on we could still enjoy the good things, the nice goals, without the baggage.
I don't like Ibra too, for the same reasons. But I don't think Camo is first class asshole, he has his downisides about him and his character, but he is far of from Ibra, C.Ronaldo and such. Although your incident doesn't say anything remotely good about him.
Anyway, he won't be here long with us, and i just hope he stays in good shape for that time being, so he could contribute more. I never liked his character, but as i said, I love stuff he does with the ball on the field.
Anyway, he won't be here long with us, and i just hope he stays in good shape for that time being, so he could contribute more. I never liked his character, but as i said, I love stuff he does with the ball on the field.
Rossi's gamble starts to pay off in South Africa
Associated Press
Updated: June 16, 2009, 10:53 AM EDT
IRENE, South Africa (AP) - Giuseppe Rossi's gamble is starting to pay off.
Four years ago, then-United States coach Bruce Arena offered the talented New Jersey-born striker a chance to play at the 2006 World Cup. Most teenagers would have jumped at the opportunity.
Not Rossi.
Born to Italian immigrants, Rossi always had his eyes set on playing for the national team of his parents and ancestors.
"It was tough to say no to an offer like that, especially when you're only 18 and they're offering you a chance to play in the World Cup," Rossi said Tuesday, a day after coming off the bench and scoring two goals for Italy in a 3-1 win over the 10-man United States.
"But ever since I was little I watched this team and it was my dream to play for Italy. Thank God it's all working out."
Rossi was born in Teaneck and grew up in Clifton, New Jersey. He left the United States 10 years ago to join Parma's youth system.
"The move was very, very tough for my family, my mom, my sister. I was only 12," Rossi said. "It was a big step for me to go to Italy, but I needed to in order to develop as a player. The soccer in Italy is the best in the world. I grew tremendously in those five years."
When he was 18, Rossi received an offer to move to Manchester United.
"The three years I spent with United was the first time I played with the first team and great players," Rossi said, alternating with ease between Italian and English. "It was a great learning experience for me."
After a stint at Newcastle, and then back to Parma, Rossi has become a standout with Villarreal in Spain, and he led all scorers at the Beijing Olympics with four goals with Italy's under-23 team.
Despite all his travels, Rossi still has deep ties to the United States, and he speaks English more naturally than Italian.
"For me, the U.S. is home," he said. "I was born there and I have my family there, but when I lived in Italy for five or six years I grew as a man and a player, so Italy is a big part of me, too."
After his opening goal Monday, Rossi's celebration was a linguistic mixture that mirrored his career.
"I was thinking in Italian but then a 'Vamos' came out and then a 'Let's Go,"' Rossi said, laughing about it. "I don't know what happened."
Yet Rossi knows exactly how he scored, blasting in a shot from 30 meters (yards) on his first touch of the game and living up to his nickname of "Joe Cool" from the Italian media.
"That's part of my nature," he said, smiling as he grew accustomed to the media spotlight. "When I go out onto the field I do what's needed for the team. The ball was there and I took it and got a shot off."
Rossi's second goal came late in injury time, following a set up from Andrea Pirlo, boosting his tally to three goals in just six appearances for the Azzurri. His national team debut came in October, and his first goal earlier this month in a friendly against Northern Ireland.
"He already had unbelievable talent when we played together on the under-21 team," midfielder Riccardo Montolivo said. "You could tell he had something extra. He really plays at a high level."
Italians look at Rossi's choice to work his way up through Italy's system, when he could have been the scorer the United States has sought for years, as an instance of his American audacity.
"That is part of my mentality," Rossi said. "When I want something I try to achieve it. For now, things are going well, but I don't want it to end here. I always want more."
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9688898/Rossi's-gamble-starts-to-pay-off-in-South-Africa
Sorry if this was already posted.
Associated Press
Updated: June 16, 2009, 10:53 AM EDT
IRENE, South Africa (AP) - Giuseppe Rossi's gamble is starting to pay off.
Four years ago, then-United States coach Bruce Arena offered the talented New Jersey-born striker a chance to play at the 2006 World Cup. Most teenagers would have jumped at the opportunity.
Not Rossi.
Born to Italian immigrants, Rossi always had his eyes set on playing for the national team of his parents and ancestors.
"It was tough to say no to an offer like that, especially when you're only 18 and they're offering you a chance to play in the World Cup," Rossi said Tuesday, a day after coming off the bench and scoring two goals for Italy in a 3-1 win over the 10-man United States.
"But ever since I was little I watched this team and it was my dream to play for Italy. Thank God it's all working out."
Rossi was born in Teaneck and grew up in Clifton, New Jersey. He left the United States 10 years ago to join Parma's youth system.
"The move was very, very tough for my family, my mom, my sister. I was only 12," Rossi said. "It was a big step for me to go to Italy, but I needed to in order to develop as a player. The soccer in Italy is the best in the world. I grew tremendously in those five years."
When he was 18, Rossi received an offer to move to Manchester United.
"The three years I spent with United was the first time I played with the first team and great players," Rossi said, alternating with ease between Italian and English. "It was a great learning experience for me."
After a stint at Newcastle, and then back to Parma, Rossi has become a standout with Villarreal in Spain, and he led all scorers at the Beijing Olympics with four goals with Italy's under-23 team.
Despite all his travels, Rossi still has deep ties to the United States, and he speaks English more naturally than Italian.
"For me, the U.S. is home," he said. "I was born there and I have my family there, but when I lived in Italy for five or six years I grew as a man and a player, so Italy is a big part of me, too."
After his opening goal Monday, Rossi's celebration was a linguistic mixture that mirrored his career.
"I was thinking in Italian but then a 'Vamos' came out and then a 'Let's Go,"' Rossi said, laughing about it. "I don't know what happened."
Yet Rossi knows exactly how he scored, blasting in a shot from 30 meters (yards) on his first touch of the game and living up to his nickname of "Joe Cool" from the Italian media.
"That's part of my nature," he said, smiling as he grew accustomed to the media spotlight. "When I go out onto the field I do what's needed for the team. The ball was there and I took it and got a shot off."
Rossi's second goal came late in injury time, following a set up from Andrea Pirlo, boosting his tally to three goals in just six appearances for the Azzurri. His national team debut came in October, and his first goal earlier this month in a friendly against Northern Ireland.
"He already had unbelievable talent when we played together on the under-21 team," midfielder Riccardo Montolivo said. "You could tell he had something extra. He really plays at a high level."
Italians look at Rossi's choice to work his way up through Italy's system, when he could have been the scorer the United States has sought for years, as an instance of his American audacity.
"That is part of my mentality," Rossi said. "When I want something I try to achieve it. For now, things are going well, but I don't want it to end here. I always want more."
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9688898/Rossi's-gamble-starts-to-pay-off-in-South-Africa
Sorry if this was already posted.
@rollie: camo/amauri are the same to me as rossi. Great players, disloyal. Amauri can catch a team and the first one that comes calling he is going to take. What is the point of a national team when players get to choose what country they get to play for? Instead of being honored to play, unlike rossi who said "it was just easier in europe" even though calling USA home. Like andybrushmyteeth in regards to camo, my mind is made up on the issue.
I wonder where the hypocrites are that cried when our great players abandoned us in calciopoli, leaving a team that is all dear to our hearts but when another player does the same to a team that is close to me and andy's heart we are constantly questioned because we see it differently. What canna and the other players did, in my opinion, is the same as rossi did. As andy says all to often....merchaneries, just looking out with what is best for them. How is the US supposed to improve when people take this option to play elsewhere? Same goes for all the other nations that had this issue. I'm open to anything or ideas you guys might have but I haven't heard anything yet to come close to persuading me otherwise.
I wonder where the hypocrites are that cried when our great players abandoned us in calciopoli, leaving a team that is all dear to our hearts but when another player does the same to a team that is close to me and andy's heart we are constantly questioned because we see it differently. What canna and the other players did, in my opinion, is the same as rossi did. As andy says all to often....merchaneries, just looking out with what is best for them. How is the US supposed to improve when people take this option to play elsewhere? Same goes for all the other nations that had this issue. I'm open to anything or ideas you guys might have but I haven't heard anything yet to come close to persuading me otherwise.