Nationality debate (17 Viewers)

[Martin]

They don't necessarily have to be divided that way. Some genes are dominant while others are recessive.

So how come male genes trump female genes, but not in Brazil? What's the biological basis for that?

 

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[Hust]

It's not a decision you make. You don't decide to have blue eyes or black skin. Your parents do, thus your parents are who decide where you are from. If I went and lived in Beijing for 40 years, guess what, I still wouldn't be chinese.

Yep

@martin: just curious what it says. Mine, for example, despite how close I am to my italian/german roots, says american. I love my heritage but wouldn't claim to be a citizen of those countries. I was just thinking about the legal documentation and how that could even be distorted.

 

[CalcioJuventus]

I wouldn't be surprised if they exercised that clause this summer. They need some of that Rossi magic now that the Euro-mullet is packing his bags for Madrid.

I think Man Utd buy back has expired. I read it was about to expire a while back but Manchester did not make any moves. I think around the time Berbatov was making his move?

 

[rounder]

So how come male genes trump female genes, but not in Brazil? What's the biological basis for that?

Male genes don't trump female genes.

 

[rounder]

You're from Italy, France, Japan and Senegal.

What if I lived in 40 different countries for 2 years in each. Am I from forty countries?


This is nonesense.

 

[Seven]

What if I lived in 40 different countries for 2 years in each. Am I from forty countries?


This is nonesense.

2 years is not long enough IMO.

 

[Martin]

@martin: just curious what it says. Mine, for example, despite how close I am to my italian/german roots, says american. I love my heritage but wouldn't claim to be a citizen of those countries. I was just thinking about the legal documentation and how that could even be distorted.

Mine would undoubtedly say Polish since I was born in Poland to Polish parents. There was no inkling at the time that I would spend most of my life in Norway.

I have citizenship in both countries, legally I'm 100% a member of both. But not only that, with Schengen and I can live wherever I please in Europe (without having to apply for anything), so I'm not confined to either Poland or Norway.

Are you trying to tell me that a piece of paper determines who you are? What if the person filling out that paper decided to put Italian, would that make you Italian?

Cmon, you know better than this.

 

[Martin]

Male genes don't trump female genes.

Italian woman with a German man = kid is German. Isn't this what you said?

 

[rounder]

Italian woman with a German man = kid is German. Isn't this what you said?

This is decided relatve to a person's country/tradition.

I don't really believe it's true, a person can have two nationalities depending on where their parents are from.

 

[Vinny Del Pogba]

I think Man Utd buy back has expired. I read it was about to expire a while back but Manchester did not make any moves. I think around the time Berbatov was making his move?

That's good if we can get him, but bad if Inter got him. lol

I'd rather see him at United than Inter.

 

[Martin]

This is decided relatve to a person's country/tradition.

So it has nothing to do with genetics?

 

[Vinny Del Pogba]

Italian woman with a German man = kid is German. Isn't this what you said?

He was talking about tradition, not genetics. Traditionally children take their fathers last name and in some homes the fathers heritage.

 

[Raz]

He was talking about tradition, not genetics. Traditionally children take their fathers last name and in some homes the fathers heritage.

No, he was talking about genetics at first. That genetics plays the biggest and maybe the only role. Now he has shifted a bit.

Lets just wait and see what happens next

 

[Enron]

None of that matters. Rossi is a racist. He hates Poles.

 

[rounder]

So it has nothing to do with genetics?

Traditionally speaking.

That's not what I think. Read rest of my post.

 

[Martin]

Traditionally speaking.

That's not what I think. Read rest of my post.

Forget tradition. I asked how do you decide biologically in these cases. I also made some absurd calculation following directly from your statements, that didn't faze you in the least. Apparently you are impervious to self contradiction.

You also stated that nationality has nothing to do with where one is at home.

Any normal mortal would see that there is something not quite right with this logic, but you rise above that.

 

[rounder]

No, he was talking about genetics at first. That genetics plays the biggest and maybe the only role. Now he has shifted a bit.

Lets just wait and see what happens next

To clear up the confusion.

Genetics decide where you are from, who you are, ethnicity, etc..

Tradition decides which last name you carry, which official passport you will own etc..

Martin asked me that if two parents with different nationalities had a kidm which nationality would that kid be if there had to be one.

Personally, I think genetics will decide for the most part, the more dominant gene. If a Ghanian man marries a chinese woman and they have a black kid, the kid will be Ghanian.

 

[rounder]

Forget tradition. I asked how do you decide biologically in these cases. I also made some absurd calculation following directly from your statements, that didn't faze you in the least. Apparently you are impervious to self contradiction.

You also stated that nationality has nothing to do with where one is at home.

Any normal mortal would see that there is something not quite right with this logic, but you rise above that.

Like I said, the more dominant gene will decide. Balotelli is Ghanian, not Italian.

Nationality doesn't decide that, where's the logical contradiction? I can be Lebanese but I may feel right at home in the United States where people treat each other better, there are more opportunities etc...

 

[Martin]

Like I said, the more dominant gene will decide. Balotelli is Ghanian, not Italian.

Nationality doesn't decide that, where's the logical contradiction? I can be Lebanese but I may feel right at home in the United States where people treat each other better, there are more opportunaties etc...

So now we're going by what people look like? Fine. Ghanian man marries Italian woman. One kid is dark, one is light. Therefore one is Ghanian and his brother is Italian?

 

[Vinny Del Pogba]

BTW, we need to sign this motherfucker.