My Opinion after tonight`s game (14 Viewers)

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by barkuss ] ++
Another game to forget....yeah,thats the story of this season.
Juhe hasnt won any derby game....thats is sad!
Now,as I sad in some of my posts....it is clear that some players do not deserve to play in Juve. Well I will mention them:

-Montero (Im sick of his red cards this season)
-Trezeguet(There is no excuse for his non involvement in game,so passive,he wasnt in one decent chance...)
-Camoranesi(Every thing he trys to do is wrong,even he made the goal)
-Miccoli (He threats to quit if he isnt a f.team regular? with that performances boy,go back to perugia....or no,better Ancona)

Yet to consider:

-DiVaio (tryed,scored....just if he will be more consistent)
-Appiah (After tonight,I would send him to Padova but we all know that he is a quality player)
-Birindelli (signed new contract,but he done nothing. nor in def nor in off. Killy made him look funny.....bad bad technique)
-Tudor (He isnt in running form to be Def.Midfielder....give him one more season,if hes healthy....he is the best CB in the world,nice performance tonight)
-put Miccoli in this group,but IMO he isnt a class for juve

Suprisingly good:

-Maresca(changed my opinion copletly on this guy....must keep)
-Legero-tagllie (not so bad as earlier in this season)

well,Tach & Zamb did what they could........IMO.
Very,very dissapointing season ......no derby won...I dunno how we beated Parma....if we did at all....

But yet we cant even thing about selling Del Piero, right?

 

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[qcfabio]

i am in HongKong so i just heard the name of Gasbarroni from CM as he is so devastating in the game...I am really looking forward to seeing him play for Juve next season, though it seems unlikely as there is a less than effective Camoranesi there...

I'm a big big fan of Enzo and Lippi totally disappointed me when he chose to field that crap Appiah instead of Enzo in Inter-Juve. Throughout the first half, Appiah just could not recover any ball or produce any intelligent pass and all he managed to do is run all the way and mis-pass the ball to inter's players.

If there is one player who deserves to be sold immediately, i would not hesitate to choose Appiah. He is definitely not the heir of the once great Edgar Davids but what's more irritating is that he destroys the midfield of Juve...

Legrottaglie really played a more than good match ... He is quite good when he is in normal condition

Tacchi is experienced and he should not leave either ... Miccoli has great flair but he just does not play much...Maresca is much more effective if he is fielded at the centre but not on the left flank

Can anyone tell me what type of player Kapo is ? I have not watched him play b4...

 

[Ahmed_]

++ [ originally posted by barkuss ] ++
Another game to forget....yeah,thats the story of this season.
Juhe hasnt won any derby game....thats is sad!
Now,as I sad in some of my posts....it is clear that some players do not deserve to play in Juve. Well I will mention them:

-Montero (Im sick of his red cards this season)
-Trezeguet(There is no excuse for his non involvement in game,so passive,he wasnt in one decent chance...)
-Camoranesi(Every thing he trys to do is wrong,even he made the goal)
-Miccoli (He threats to quit if he isnt a f.team regular? with that performances boy,go back to perugia....or no,better Ancona)

Yet to consider:

-DiVaio (tryed,scored....just if he will be more consistent)
-Appiah (After tonight,I would send him to Padova but we all know that he is a quality player)
-Birindelli (signed new contract,but he done nothing. nor in def nor in off. Killy made him look funny.....bad bad technique)
-Tudor (He isnt in running form to be Def.Midfielder....give him one more season,if hes healthy....he is the best CB in the world,nice performance tonight)
-put Miccoli in this group,but IMO he isnt a class for juve

Suprisingly good:

-Maresca(changed my opinion copletly on this guy....must keep)
-Legero-tagllie (not so bad as earlier in this season)

well,Tach & Zamb did what they could........IMO.
Very,very dissapointing season ......no derby won...I dunno how we beated Parma....if we did at all....

You think Di Vaio is better than Miccoli because he scored a goal .... No way
Tudor, Montero, Appiah and Trez should leave or accept the role of subs in the team

Legro, zambo, miccoli, Tacchi, camo and buffon were good and should stay in juve next season

MARESCA ... why did not he start in the match???????????????

 

[Gandalf]

first of all.. stop this shit about selling Miccoli.. he has great potentials and one of the few good things that this season produced.. alongside with maresca..

GETTING AMBROSSINI..?!??!? wtf..!! why do we need to bring this totally non-influential player..??!!?? he will add nothing to team..

we have good young midfield players loaned out there.. BRING THEM HOME..

Lippi.. Thank him and let him go...
some say we can't blame him for one bad season.. HELL YEAH, we can blame him, coz it's all his fault.. tell me, how many sensible substitution did he make though out the whole season..?? how many times did you got surprised by seeing his start-up formation during any match this season..

one more point, the season was over a long time ago, and Lippi DID admit that the scudetto in no longer an issue.. then why the hell didn't he use more primavera players to get them ready for next season..?? instead of wasting more time and many during the summer for freindly matches and getting external players which can be reduced if we find what we are looking for in the youth team..

IT IS ALL LIPPI'S FAULT...

players to go..

-Camoranesi: crap.. very individual, and most of the time our opponents start their counter attack by tackling the ball from him..

-Montero: Kick him out.. he brings more damage to the team than doing good.. hell, he is no good at all..

-Iuliano: same as montero.. totally useless..

-Appiah: he used to be good.. but, he didn't show us during the season, just in the pre-season matches.. I say loan him to some other club, that is my opinion of his second chance

-legro: keep him as a sub for ferrari or whoever comes next summer..

-birindelli & pessotto.. one of them must go.. hell, both of them can go..

-tudor: if we gonna keep him, he must play as CB not DM..

-trez: I don't care anymore if he go or stay..

Di Vaio: was great when he replaced DP earlier this season, but lippi mis-handled him as soon as DP returned.. since then, we didn't see any good thing from him.. you judge..

DP: I'm fed up with his injuries and the ages he spent to overcome them and the the other ages he spent to get back to his old form that we didn't see for years.. his departure will financially boost the club.. frankly, I like this dude.. but, it is better for the club to let him go..

I don't wanna talk about who should come instead of the above players here..ff-topic:

 

[kaizer]

lol, i just found out maresca didnt even start the game.....and i was like WTF....??? lippi is loco that's the only explanation

 

[Piotreque]

Camor is one of our best players this compaign, both for natinal team and Juve. He is at least trying, difficult passes,driblings, but when everyone else is out of form that looks like that looks....

The main problem is I thinh our coach this term, first of all is his panic fear to take a risk, why the hell he is taking with him Chiumiento all the time when he don't even think about including him in that team, and our primavera is weaker by that, and this Maresca case what the **** about his expierience in the big matches....And who is expierienced??Kaka?Martins?Adriano?

Second thing is his spitefull searching for the new positions to almost every our player and how they can find they best form when they are always playing in different positions and with different eleven,thats really pisses me off he is a coach for a lot of years and he doesn't know that playing most of matches in the same line up creates form???Let's see Zambro was playing this season as a leftback, right-winger and left-winger, Nedved as a AMC,left-winger,right-winger and forward, Appiah as DMC,right-winger and left-winger, Di Vaio as a striker,forward and left-winger, Miccoli also and so one and so on....The players who played in at least two positions this seoson are also Tudor,Del Piero,Ferrara,Montero,Legrottaglie,Maresca. Ithink that the only players who played only in their position are Tacchi, Trez and Camor and that's it...

The third thing is his love for the players who he coach for 6years or more like Tacchinardi,Conte,Birindelli,Pessotto,Del Piero(this love with almost none creative players I understand),Montero,Ferrara when they are fit they are playing no matter of form (Tacchi, Del Piero) and thats also sad...We need a change and a little revolution, I dunno if Deshamos will be good for coaching our team but I would take this risk caouse this coach is IMO over in Juve,Have a good luck with NT BYEEEEEEE

 

[Togon]

++ [ originally posted by barkuss ] ++
Another game to forget....yeah,thats the story of this season.
Juhe hasnt won any derby game....thats is sad!
Now,as I sad in some of my posts....it is clear that some players do not deserve to play in Juve. Well I will mention them:

-Montero (Im sick of his red cards this season)
-Trezeguet(There is no excuse for his non involvement in game,so passive,he wasnt in one decent chance...)
-Camoranesi(Every thing he trys to do is wrong,even he made the goal)
-Miccoli (He threats to quit if he isnt a f.team regular? with that performances boy,go back to perugia....or no,better Ancona)

Yet to consider:

-DiVaio (tryed,scored....just if he will be more consistent)
-Appiah (After tonight,I would send him to Padova but we all know that he is a quality player)
-Birindelli (signed new contract,but he done nothing. nor in def nor in off. Killy made him look funny.....bad bad technique)
-Tudor (He isnt in running form to be Def.Midfielder....give him one more season,if hes healthy....he is the best CB in the world,nice performance tonight)
-put Miccoli in this group,but IMO he isnt a class for juve

Suprisingly good:

-Maresca(changed my opinion copletly on this guy....must keep)
-Legero-tagllie (not so bad as earlier in this season)

well,Tach & Zamb did what they could........IMO.
Very,very dissapointing season ......no derby won...I dunno how we beated Parma....if we did at all....

I think Trez performace cant be judged in a game, where our midfield, and his creative partner (micco) are played as we all saw... but Im so tired argueing about him so lets speak about:

Legrottalglie, I totally disagree with you: He was an absolute crap yesterday, he ruined our defence, when everybody stepped out to create an offside he stayed meters behind, and it happened not once, and not twice. His positioning is awful, his concentarion is fragile, he got good physic, but he is turning even slower than Montero (if its possible) he is not even good, to be a sub!

Appiah: He plays in Davids position, I get tired counting how many balls he gave away (virtually all, he was given) but I had a feeling before the match that he never wins any ball so I counted it this time

He won 1 ball during the first half, ONE F***ING BALL!!!:fero:
He is totally useless, I wanna see him no more in black and white (maybe Siena?)

Tudor as a best cd? I dunno, every time I saw him in that position he threatened to make an own goal, and he is so soo slow, I would nominate him for the award: The Golden Snail

Camora: decent sub

Miccoli: decent sub.

Maresca didnt convinced me, but we cannot get worse with him.

Tach: He cant create, (we knew that) but he needs a world class partner in midfield, at least he can destroy.

DYO: good header, he made the score looking better, he isnt Juve material, but I shouldnt write about it this time, at least he scored yesterday .

Lippi?...

 

[Eaglesnake_1]

IT SEEMS THAT OUR MIDFFIELD, WITHOUT NEDVED, BECOMES A TOTAL MESS.

EVERYONE CRITIZICED LIPPI FOR NOT PUTTING MARESCA FROM THE BEGGINGING, BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE GET IN...NOTHING

ITS ODD, BUT FROM THE MOMENT DELPIERO WAS OUT, WE HAVE ONLY WIN ONE GAME...

MOGGI...I BEG YOU TO SELL TREZEGUET...

 

[delpiero10]

"ITS ODD, BUT FROM THE MOMENT DELPIERO WAS OUT, WE HAVE ONLY WIN ONE GAME..."

Thats true, it just shows how extremely important he is, also mentaly for the players.

 

[#10]

I guess neddy and dp(however injury prone and crap form he is in) are the only catlyst for juve, one day enzo wil be if, he starts the games that is.

 

[BarkuZ-yes i am an ass]

++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++


miccoli was trying and trezeguet was doing sh*t

He tried but he did nothing.....and that is not his first bad game.
I said....if he`s dare to come out in press like that...be a man and show everybody that you can do to back-up your statements!
Hey,dont be so harsh on Trez,he played regulary for him....getting rid of the ball first second he recived her.........

 

[#10]

We cant single out miccoli or trez etc etc...it was an entire crap team performance...tac may have done his job, but was he captain?? if he was he shoulda done a better job.

 

[delpiero10]

I think some of you have a wrong impression of Miccoli, he isnt that arrogant, and where have he said: "He threats to quit if he isnt a f.team regular?"????

 

[BarkuZ-yes i am an ass]

++ [ originally posted by Togon ] ++


I think Trez performace cant be judged in a game, where our midfield, and his creative partner (micco) are played as we all saw... but Im so tired argueing about him so lets speak about:

And what the F**k am I talking in my first 100 posts on this forum?

TREZEGUET is SHIT PLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:fero:

If we had a mobile striker ball-control capable.....who wants to have the ball,to be involved in the game.....things would be different today.....

Trez is the most passive player in the world.....send him back to Monaco!!!
BTW.....good strikers MUST manage even without midfield....

 

[BarkuZ-yes i am an ass]

++ [ originally posted by delpiero10 ] ++
I think some of you have a wrong impression of Miccoli, he isnt that arrogant, and where have he said: "He threats to quit if he isnt a f.team regular?"????

It was on CNN,almost every television in the world.....ill post you link if when I find him

 

[Desmond]

i can't believe camo is still getting so much stick.he's been trying so hard and coming up with very good performances and yet so many people are not giving him the recognition he deserves.

kily,zanetti and dejan made our mids look stupid yesterday,with none of them being able to dribble like they did.then camo took things upon himself and made a couple of intelligent runs and provided skillful penetration on the right.he 'scored' the first and could have made a second after more good work on the wing.

he was our spark in neddy's absence and looked more dangerous than any other juve player in the first half,although miccoli played well too.

give the guy a break.

 

[Togon]

++ [ originally posted by barkuss ] ++

Trez is the most passive player in the world.....send him back to Monaco!!!
BTW.....good strikers MUST manage even without midfield....

and without ball...
and without play...
and without mates...

if someone thinks we could have beaten Inter,
would be still alive in CL,
and still within reach of scudetto
if Seva, RVN, Zlatan or even Pelé were playing in Trez's role,
is know NOTHING about football (imo).

 

[delpiero10]

++ [ originally posted by barkuss ] ++


It was on CNN,almost every television in the world.....ill post you link if when I find him

Ok then. Well i have heard that Juve most likely are going to loan Miccoli out for the next sason, so then the problem may be temporarly solved.

 

[Desmond]

loan miccoli?

i'll personally fly to turin and slap moggi in the face

 

[Togon]

I got a feeling that Trez became the "scapegoat" of this dissapointing season.
My thoughts:

1. We can debate about selling him and "playing who would I buy?" only couse he worth big money (actually double the prize anyone else in our team)

same reason there is not much rumours about selling: Iuliano, Montero, Birindelli, Tudor, Taacch, Appiah, Conte, DYO etc

2 It can be said we need a different type of offensive system (two creative striker or whatever), but for me its not acceptable to say how crap someone is, who was our leading scorer during the last two succesfull scudetto campaign, and in a nearly successive CL season.

3 As our play get worse and worse, our creativity has gone and we used (usually inaccurate) long balls more and more, if Trez has stepped back for ball more often who would have fought the aerial battles backwards to goal, Micco or DP or DYO ???
(easy to say how Seva do this and that, but he has some mates who can use his head not only inside the box)

When we started to sink all the blames were on Defs, than somehow it slowly became the result of Trez's crap play...

anyone noticed we have no more, than about 4 players (max) who will be considered as worldclass 3 years from now? (Gigi, Trez, Zambro, Mares???)