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GordoDeCentral

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Being deported is a fear that illegal immigrants already have, a person who's travelling several thousands of miles will not suddenly be dissuaded by a picture of military plane used for deportation. Not a significant number anyways. We can disagree on that and that's fine. In my experience theatrics is used for political mileage but policies are what drives change. Changing asylum laws, tougher border controls, agreements with host countries and the like. Don't get me wrong, I agree politics require narrative and theatre, just for vastly different reasons.
You can be deported in many ways, some not so accommodating. The rhetoric and style of trump vis a vis immigration has already prompted a lot of illegals to voluntarily leave.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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So China already beat out our AI products? So much for American dominance.
I honestly cannot think of tech arrogance more deserving.

If your tech innovation play is top-down and heavily depends on massive investments of hardware and infrastructure provided by deep-pocketed, anti-innovation, moat-defending bloated incumbents like Microsoft, Google, and Facebook, your #1 blind spot is going to be someone who undercuts your assumptions of aircraft-carrier-sized data centers and finds a far more efficient, less resource-intensive way to achieve similar results.

The whole CHIPS policy here also played into China's hands by forcing domestic innovation, thereby undercutting their own businesses. But that was always going to be a short-term-deterrent/long-term-accelerant. It just accelerated much sooner.

I hear Remulak resident Marc Andreesen is calling this a Sputnik-moment. But he's a bloated fat footprint investor who embodies everything wrong with Big Tech's bigness today. The hubris is off the charts.

I only wish this acknowledgement could have happened a full week ago. Just watching the faces melt on all these billionaire tech bros posturing at the Trump inauguration while their portfolios crumble before their eyes on the phones would have been orgasmic.

And you forgot to add that price controls are Communist, so prices may not change for a long while.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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So China already beat out our AI products? So much for American dominance.
All with significantly inferior hardware. All top model GPUs are export controlled and Nvidia is only allowed to sell their mid level ones in China. And yet they came up with a good chatbot and even made it open source.

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Deep Seek R1 will be the first real economic test for the new admin. I'm very confident they'll pass with flying colors.
 
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Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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All with significantly interior hardware. All top model GPUs are export controlled and Nvidia is only allowed to sell their mid level ones in China. And yet they came up with a good chatbot and even made it open source.

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Deep Seek R1 will be the first real economic test for the new admin. I'm very confident they'll pass with flying colors.
the chinese guy that made it and open sourced it just might get Luigi'd by someone who was super anti Luigi :lol:
 

Bjerknes

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AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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I honestly cannot think of tech arrogance more deserving.

If your tech innovation play is top-down and heavily depends on massive investments of hardware and infrastructure provided by deep-pocketed, anti-innovation, moat-defending bloated incumbents like Microsoft, Google, and Facebook, your #1 blind spot is going to be someone who undercuts your assumptions of aircraft-carrier-sized data centers and finds a far more efficient, less resource-intensive way to achieve similar results.

The whole CHIPS policy here also played into China's hands by forcing domestic innovation, thereby undercutting their own businesses. But that was always going to be a short-term-deterrent/long-term-accelerant. It just accelerated much sooner.

I hear Remulak resident Marc Andreesen is calling this a Sputnik-moment. But he's a bloated fat footprint investor who embodies everything wrong with Big Tech's bigness today. The hubris is off the charts.

I only wish this acknowledgement could have happened a full week ago. Just watching the faces melt on all these billionaire tech bros posturing at the Trump inauguration while their portfolios crumble before their eyes on the phones would have been orgasmic.



And you forgot to add that price controls are Communist, so prices may not change for a long while.
Was so sure we'd see have their own stock exchange when the delisting threats started around 2016-2017.

But but but it doesn’t affect your daily life

https://x.com/bnofeed/status/1883973771939439104?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg

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He is 100% to blame. Only happens under Republican watch.

2001 Bush
2008 Bush
2020 Trump
2025 Trump
Bird flu will rape us I fear. But it's fine, true American patriots are willing to lay their lives on the line so that Walmart may live to sell Chinese plastic bullshit another day.
 

Mokku

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Apr 17, 2019
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy48j7yxl08o
Justice is out the window too. Imagine getting sacked for being good at your job.

Good luck without WHO. It's true that third world countries suffer with different types of health issues, but if you're not on top of it, your population can be ravaged quickly. In the West, you have different health problems related to obesity and diet, etc so the data is very different and you need guidance for stuff like Ozempic. WHO covers many things, not just vaccines. You don't fuck about with health matters especially after so many died during COVID and when a huge proportion of the population is unhealthy with some of the highest rates of diabetes and similar.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Wheels off. Voices silenced. Checks and balances gone.

This isn't Trump, though. I don't know if anyone has fully caught on yet. Trump is too off-the-cuff rambling nonsense to coordinate 250 attack aircraft carriers at once.

This is all really more execution of an outsider plan, perhaps one whose initials are Project 2025.

Meet the new Deep State. Same as the old Deep State.
 

icemaη

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Aug 27, 2008
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Wheels off. Voices silenced. Checks and balances gone.

This isn't Trump, though. I don't know if anyone has fully caught on yet. Trump is too off-the-cuff rambling nonsense to coordinate 250 attack aircraft carriers at once.

This is all really more execution of an outsider plan, perhaps one whose initials are Project 2025.

Meet the new Deep State. Same as the old Deep State.
It's only Deep State if it's not my team.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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that's how it started in hungary too after fidesz had a 2/3 majority and could start to work on a new constitution. and they turned our democracy into something they call "illiberal democracy". and it's basically an autocracy where loyalty >>>>>>>>>>>> everything else (including pedigree, merits, professionalism, facts, social justice, common sense). then they put their own people everywhere, be it prosecutors (that was the most important, there's no crime if nobody starts a process, see also the way figc operates), heads of public institutions, schools, state owned companies' boards, central bank, media authorities, you name it. then they started to take people's companies by stealing eu funds and tax money, redistributing the money via the tax system (lower the taxes of the rich, raise the taxes of the poor, does it ring a bell lol) and state investments. now the country is full of oligarchs close to fidesz, everyone knows that their immense wealth is basically fidesz property. they control the news, the economy and justice, they redraw electoral districts every now and then so that they are more favorable to them, they own the businesses, they control the education including the universities, and they keep blaming "brussels" and the "radical left" for every shit that's happening in the country. easy.

oh yeah, they are doing basically nothing that is patriotic. it's not even a right wing government. yeah they run advertisements that are against immigration, but at the same time, they import hundreds of thousands of philippinos to work in chinese factories, and they let russians travel and invest in the country like nothing happened. they support sport like it was patriotic lol, while even the communists did that. the only conservative thing they are doing is to attack gays and fighting gender related legislation, like it was a real issue within the country

~the same is happening under trump. musk charged with a department to run and at the same time being a huge client to the federation is corruption at the highest level, it shouldn't happen in any civilized country. hegseth's story perfectly fits the timeline too: a completely inept, unqualified but supposedly loyal idiot getting an important position is something that will happen many, many times, from top to bottom
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,112
All federal grants are frozen by the white house. But I'm sure it won't affect anyone's life.
That includes Pell Grants and loans for students, as well as housing assistance. I'm sure some of these people will be forced to withdraw from school and probably be kicked out of their housing situation.

Trump is literally destroying the country and MAGA cheers it on.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/27/poli...s-federal-grants-loan-disbursement/index.html

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Everyone warned about Project 2025, Trump lied about it, and now it's turning out to be even worse than first though.

Trump is clearly trying to collapse our economy to seize control through a dictatorship.
 
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