Obama is in a league of his own but let's not get ridiculous and lump Harris and Trump in the same category. Trump is his very own special kind of stupid, at this point.
But now he's borderline senile and everything looks a lot worse, simply because his supporters start to see him through a different lens.
Mostly I think it's over for him because media outlets use every chance they get to say 'hey, look at this stupid old dude'. Once that ball gets rolling in the mainstream press, it's impossible to stop it.
Apart from Trump's performance though I don't think Harris is a charismatic speaker at all.
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