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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,318
I’ll tell you why since I’m in the military

he didn’t send us to war. Shouldn’t be that complicated but here we are. Not one of us that I know in uniform across ALL branches thinks/feels like he “shits on us over and over”. pretty much anything in your post about dodging draft - we don’t care. It’s not for everyone.
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s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,557
An experienced politician would say things differently in private and public. But a normal person would not even say things like that in private, let alone public. Who cares whether a CMH Recipient is beautiful or not? It doesn’t even cross my mind for a second.
Also, he’s talking about Miriam Adelson who’s 78 years old. What’s beauty at that age?
that miriam allegedly donated 100m to trump's campaign. of course trump will compare her to actual soldiers who risked or lost their lives in actual combats

i think that trump is a dumb moron steadily losing his mind. and my conviction gets stronger with every clip, interview or social media post i see of him, with him, by him. the complete trump phenomenon doesn't make any sense. he is living in an alternative universe, completely out of touch with reality
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,488
Not one of us that I know in uniform across ALL branches thinks/feels like he “shits on us over and over”.

So everyone just simply choose to ignore what he outright says himself on several occasions?

Not just above example of desparaging and dismissing military medal to prop up ciivlian one to a billionaire. But how about stuff like this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ho-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/


There's no misunderstanding this, he outright is brazen about what low regard he has for them.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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that miriam allegedly donated 100m to trump's campaign. of course trump will compare her to actual soldiers who risked or lost their lives in actual combats

i think that trump is a dumb moron steadily losing his mind. and my conviction gets stronger with every clip, interview or social media post i see of him, with him, by him. the complete trump phenomenon doesn't make any sense. he is living in an alternative universe, completely out of touch with reality
Watching numerous videos each day from Brian Tyler Cohen and the Meidas Touch is enough to show what an unhinged clown both Trump and Vance are, shame the mainstream media don't seem to highlight it half as much.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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So everyone just simply choose to ignore what he outright says himself on several occasions?

Not just above example of desparaging and dismissing military medal to prop up ciivlian one to a billionaire. But how about stuff like this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ho-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/


There's no misunderstanding this, he outright is brazen about what low regard he has for them.
We pretty much have come to terms that at the end of the day not one single politician really cares about military members - doesn’t matter what side you’re on. We do it not because we like who is in charge.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,318
So everyone just simply choose to ignore what he outright says himself on several occasions?

Not just above example of desparaging and dismissing military medal to prop up ciivlian one to a billionaire. But how about stuff like this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ho-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/


There's no misunderstanding this, he outright is brazen about what low regard he has for them.
Hust likes to be pissed on, so joke's on you.

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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If politicians cared - VA hospitals would be better. We wouldn’t have been in Iraq or all the other wars, etc
This is true, but I think it's mostly on voters. Politicians simply play into that.

The thing with veterans is that they remind you of things you like to forget.

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Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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We pretty much have come to terms that at the end of the day not one single politician really cares about military members - doesn’t matter what side you’re on. We do it not because we like who is in charge.

I get that for military it doesn't matter who is president, they follow orders and serve regardless. And even a politician praising or complimenting the military may not do anything for them. Just use it for PR reasons.


But on human level, does it not annoy you Trump actively goes out of his way to show disdain and utter disrespect to people who lay down their lives for their country? Not even him as president or politician, but on human level to say they suckers and losers, not even the living servicemen, but to mock those who laid down their lives? That's truly ugly and heinous imo.



Most cynical political class may see military grunts as cannon fodder to do their bidding, but what level of sociopathic behaviour does it take to verbalise outright insults on soldiers who died for their country simply for the fact they died in active duty?
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I get that for military it doesn't matter who is president, they follow orders and serve regardless. And even a politician praising or complimenting the military may not do anything for them. Just use it for PR reasons.


But on human level, does it not annoy you Trump actively goes out of his way to show disdain and utter disrespect to people who lay down their lives for their country? Not even him as president or politician, but on human level to say they suckers and losers, not even the living servicemen, but to mock those who laid down their lives? That's truly ugly and heinous imo.



Most cynical political class may see military grunts as cannon fodder to do their bidding, but what level of sociopathic behaviour does it take to verbalise outright insults on soldiers who died for their country simply for the fact they died in active duty?
Verbalizing because of their own tasteless words versus sending you to battle over something completely irrelevant to our way of life

neither are ideal but I can tell you me personally would rather take the words over say boots in the ground in the Middle East or Ukraine god forbid

yeah we are cannon fodder for just about anyone in Washington. No argument there. We get paid to go to work and do whatever it is that’s asked of us. Despite what he may or may not have said, at the end of the day I haven’t had any friends lost to war. My wife can’t say the same she was in the Navy long before I joined. I got in under Obama and hated him but still joined knowing the same as I do about any politician.

i don’t really like the tit for tat anymore - Trump did this, but Biden did that, or bush - etc. all the same to me now. You get used to it. “Things will be better with a new president”. Well to many of us it was better under Trump for the no war part - that boosted morale. Also got a raise there (not 100% sure if at all was because of trump or was already budgeted)

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Many join for career change; get out of bad situation etc; others serve because they think it’s their duty or a combination of things

we will be ready regardless as best as we can be regardless who sits in the WH. I’m fairly confident it will be Kamala, maybe I’m wrong. I’m basically resigned to the fact it will be. Another example - military people aren’t even mad over Walz issues with stolen valor - we are just used to being expendable regardless. Nothing really surprises us I guess
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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We pay way too much in taxes and receive nothing in return. Get raped constantly. Then we also get raped through inflation because government needs moar money so they expand money supply. And what do we get back for it? Not much at all. Property taxes? Horrible as well. Something has to give here. This isn’t France.
 

icemaη

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Moderator
Aug 27, 2008
36,320
We pay way too much in taxes and receive nothing in return. Get raped constantly. Then we also get raped through inflation because government needs moar money so they expand money supply. And what do we get back for it? Not much at all. Property taxes? Horrible as well. Something has to give here. This isn’t France.
Firefighters would set fire if it were
 

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