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Seven

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There's literally children walking around the streets with loaded guns going about their day. It looks like The Wire on steroids.
Yeah tells you how important a safe environment is.

With friends we always say ‘it’s better to buy a crappy house in a good neighbourhood, than a great house in a shit neighbourhood.’ I guess that it counts for Chigaco
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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There's literally children walking around the streets with loaded guns going about their day. It looks like The Wire on steroids.
I had never heard gunshots in my life until I went to LA at 25 lol.

I'm not sure if it was just a coincidence, but I have to say that at least subconsciously I do feel less safe in the US than just about anywhere in Europe because of it.

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campionesidd

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Dostoevsky

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I had never heard gunshots in my life until I went to LA at 25 lol.

I'm not sure if it was just a coincidence, but I have to say that at least subconsciously I do feel less safe in the US than just about anywhere in Europe because of it.

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Pretty crazy to think how Americans probably got used to it. Hearing it daily/weekly is pretty intense.

Oh but I heard that people don't really feel safe in Sweden lately.
 
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Illinois doesn’t even crack the top 10 states in homicide rates (most of which are Republican governed, by the way).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate
How do you approach this as a American? If you had to go to a certain place, be it for work to some office, but it is in Chicago, would you carry a gun?

Or is it already at the level for many places, that it’s almost standard to carry a gun doing basic everyday things?

Looking from the outside, it’s probably a matter of ‘avoid zone X, Y and Z and you’ll be fine’.
 

campionesidd

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How do you approach this as a American? If you had to go to a certain place, be it for work to some office, but it is in Chicago, would you carry a gun?

Or is it already at the level for many places, that it’s almost standard to carry a gun doing basic everyday things?

Looking from the outside, it’s probably a matter of ‘avoid zone X, Y and Z and you’ll be fine’.
That’s how it is. Just avoid shady areas and don’t confront or pick fights with strangers, because you never know if the other person will start shooting.
 

GordoDeCentral

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How do you approach this as a American? If you had to go to a certain place, be it for work to some office, but it is in Chicago, would you carry a gun?

Or is it already at the level for many places, that it’s almost standard to carry a gun doing basic everyday things?

Looking from the outside, it’s probably a matter of ‘avoid zone X, Y and Z and you’ll be fine’.
Guns ownership is "illegal" in Chicago lol also I would not put too much faith in -often manipulated stats(in both directions). But the city of chicago as a whole has gotten much more dangerous, while before, the bulk of crime and shootings was limited to only south and west sides. Overall America is not too unsafe, not as safe as europe, but also nowhere near as unsafe as it portrayed in news/media.

Pro tip: If you see a pawn shop, liquor store and a checks cashed joint all within a couple blocks GTFO especially if you are white.
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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How do you approach this as a American? If you had to go to a certain place, be it for work to some office, but it is in Chicago, would you carry a gun?

Or is it already at the level for many places, that it’s almost standard to carry a gun doing basic everyday things?

Looking from the outside, it’s probably a matter of ‘avoid zone X, Y and Z and you’ll be fine’.
It gets even worse than Chicago
https://drexel.edu/uhc/resources/briefs/BCHC Gun Deaths/

You can't decide to "just carry a gun" in many places, but law differs by state. That retard's tweet is ridiculous in his placement of blame though, just get one from the next state, and he probably knows it too.

I can't speak for other cities, but in New York it's generally very localized, lines denote different police precincts:

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Almost all of them are either in the North part of Manhattan, the South Bronx, or Bed-Stuy/Brownsville area. Generally, these aren't places you'd find yourself in anyway unless you're going to Yankee Stadium or something.
 

ALC

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Oct 28, 2010
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I was tracking homicides in Philly for a while when I’d get bored at work. https://www.phillypolice.com/crimestats/

Covid years were crazy high and it looks like they’ve gone down again.

but the amount of homicides that go unresolved is pretty high. Given, a lot of those happen in ghettos and shady neighborhoods so cops don’t seem to really give a shit. Philly cops don’t seem to give much of a shit about anything tbh. But they’re still better than the suburb cops who pull over a teenager and call three backup cars.
 

JuveJay

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I was tracking homicides in Philly for a while when I’d get bored at work. https://www.phillypolice.com/crimestats/

Covid years were crazy high and it looks like they’ve gone down again.

but the amount of homicides that go unresolved is pretty high. Given, a lot of those happen in ghettos and shady neighborhoods so cops don’t seem to really give a shit. Philly cops don’t seem to give much of a shit about anything tbh. But they’re still better than the suburb cops who pull over a teenager and call three backup cars.
Is it still the case that people keep quiet on the streets as well?
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Is it still the case that people keep quiet on the streets as well?
yeah they’re used to the shooting. The people I know that used to live or still live in spots where shootings are common don’t really feel threatened and going to the cops would only put them on the spotlight
 

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