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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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The two party system needs to end. It’s insane that the most powerful person in the world has to be chosen from two senile old men.
In statistics we call this regression toward the mean.

And I am using "mean" in a couple different ways there. :hihi:

But no matter the outcome,, my condolences in India, however. It seems to always go...
 

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L'autista
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https://amp.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/27/trump-donors-israel-gaza-palestinian-protests

And the dumbasses like Rashida Tlaib and that loony progressive ilk telling Biden they will make him pay for enabling Netanyahu and Israel.

Yeah, good thinking, don’t vote for Biden so Trump gets elected and then see how it goes for the Palestinians and their ‘murican supporters lol
I dunno. Yeah, she's sabotaging her own greater cause from within. But isn't this what representational politics should be about though?

Like they say: MLK needed his Malcom X to make him seem more moderate. But if a rabid woman has to be the lone voice for a pet cause for where she is more deeply aligned with, and her constituents who voted for her, then she's doing her job.

Sure, we should all be playing 5D chess on the optics of everything and how it effects presidential outcomes. But I do like the fact that there are times, regardless of party lines, people aren't willing to tow the line.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I dunno. Yeah, she's sabotaging her own greater cause from within. But isn't this what representational politics should be about though?

Like they say: MLK needed his Malcom X to make him seem more moderate. But if a rabid woman has to be the lone voice for a pet cause for where she is more deeply aligned with, and her constituents who voted for her, then she's doing her job.

Sure, we should all be playing 5D chess on the optics of everything and how it effects presidential outcomes. But I do like the fact that there are times, regardless of party lines, people aren't willing to tow the line.
I actually agree with this.

And you know, if you're looking for a cause, trying to prevent genocide is not a bad one.
 

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L'autista
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I actually agree with this.

And you know, if you're looking for a cause, trying to prevent genocide is not a bad one.
Exactly. If that's the hill you're going to die on, I can respect that.

In Italy the hill some politicians want to die on is over removable plastic bottle caps

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I actually agree with this.

And you know, if you're looking for a cause, trying to prevent genocide is not a bad one.
I mean the whole point is that the Biden admin has spent this entire time pressing Israel to avoid exactly that… whereas Trump has come out and said multiple times that he would encourage Israel to go all in without any sort of restraint.

It’s called cutting off your nose to spite your face. Encouraging your likeminded turds to make Biden lose the election for not outright forcing Israel to end this war peacefully, so that Trump can return to power and give Israel free rein to end this war catastrophically. Quite a cunning plan :sergio:
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I mean the whole point is that the Biden admin has spent this entire time pressing Israel to avoid exactly that… whereas Trump has come out and said multiple times that he would encourage Israel to go all in without any sort of restraint.

It’s called cutting off your nose to spite your face. Encouraging your likeminded turds to make Biden lose the election for not outright forcing Israel to end this war peacefully, so that Trump can return to power and give Israel free rein to end this war catastrophically. Quite a cunning plan :sergio:

I wouldn't make the same choice.

But I can see why someone would put as much pressure as possible on an administration right now. It is May. The elections are in November. You want to find out how many people Israel can slaughter between now and November?
 

icemaη

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In statistics we call this regression toward the mean.

And I am using "mean" in a couple different ways there. :hihi:

But no matter the outcome,, my condolences in India, however. It seems to always go...
Weirdly I'm a bit more optimistic than I was before these elections. The judiciary seems to have grown a backbone, people seem to be more comfortable criticising the ruling party than in the past few years and the ruling party turning the hate meter to maximum seem to suggest that they are not going to win as easily as they thought they would.

I dunno. Yeah, she's sabotaging her own greater cause from within. But isn't this what representational politics should be about though?

Like they say: MLK needed his Malcom X to make him seem more moderate. But if a rabid woman has to be the lone voice for a pet cause for where she is more deeply aligned with, and her constituents who voted for her, then she's doing her job.

Sure, we should all be playing 5D chess on the optics of everything and how it effects presidential outcomes. But I do like the fact that there are times, regardless of party lines, people aren't willing to tow the line.
Isn't her parents Palestinians? I can see why she wouldn't want to vote for a president who's complicit in her relatives being murdered. Why would you want to reward a person who's actively committing harm right now?
It's the candidate's responsibility to earn the vote of the electorate, alleviate their concerns. If your main pitch is that you are terrible, but not as terrible as the opponent, it's a pretty bad pitch. Look how that worked out for Hillary. If the Democrats lose, they'll continue to blame the voters, instead of actually fixing shit and running a proper campaign, listening to their base. The other day I saw a clip where Hillary said something along the lines of "Get over yourself" or something. So out of touch really.
 

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I mean the whole point is that the Biden admin has spent this entire time pressing Israel to avoid exactly that… whereas Trump has come out and said multiple times that he would encourage Israel to go all in without any sort of restraint.

It’s called cutting off your nose to spite your face. Encouraging your likeminded turds to make Biden lose the election for not outright forcing Israel to end this war peacefully, so that Trump can return to power and give Israel free rein to end this war catastrophically. Quite a cunning plan :sergio:
Barely. You're absolutely right about Trump, but at this point I give absolutely 0 credit to Biden for his handling of any part of this right now.
 

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L'autista
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Weirdly I'm a bit more optimistic than I was before these elections. The judiciary seems to have grown a backbone, people seem to be more comfortable criticising the ruling party than in the past few years and the ruling party turning the hate meter to maximum seem to suggest that they are not going to win as easily as they thought they would.
Wild, really. And a lot of the BJPs moves as the elections continue seem more desperate than confident.

He's clearly winning a third. But the vibe does seem different.

Repeating "We stand with Israel" every chance he gets sure does not look like he's pressing them about anything.
And what tf with this "standing with" nonsense everywhere? A few years ago people were taking knees everywhere. Now they're standing everywhere.

Everybody just shut up and sit down or take up arms and throw yourself on the front lines. None of this standing crap anymore, please.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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And what tf with this "standing with" nonsense everywhere? A few years ago people were taking knees everywhere. Now they're standing everywhere.

Everybody just shut up and sit down or take up arms and throw yourself on the front lines. None of this standing crap anymore, please.
The world would be a better place if we didn't keep inventing new equivalents of thoughts and prayers.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Trump guilty on all 34 counts. But it was just a political witch hunt, right? Republicans :lol3:
Christians: "I'm fine with the verdict because Jesus will save Trump against the satanic jurors. Not a single believer in Christ in the jury. God will prevail."

People have an issue with Muslims? Christians are fucking retards as well.

I was going to vote for Trump again possibly, but not if I'm on the same side as this Christian retards. Churches are just pedo factories anyway.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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Trump found guilty on all 34 charges in the hush money scandal. I mean if you followed this case as closely as I have it comes to no surprise, his attorney Todd Blanche was awful, Trump's witness was awful, on top of the threats to the judge, his family and intimidating the jury, its a shame this guilty verdict is unlikely to result in a jail sentence.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Trump guilty on all 34 counts. But it was just a political witch hunt, right? Republicans :lol3:
That in a political climate this polarized 12 citizens - approved by Trump's own lawyers - came together and rendered a unanimous guilty verdict on 34 counts in a matter of days tells you what a piece of shit Trump must be when you actually are around him for longer than 10 minutes.
 

ALC

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Oct 28, 2010
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That in a political climate this polarized 12 citizens - approved by Trump's own lawyers - came together and rendered a unanimous guilty verdict on 34 counts in a matter of days tells you what a piece of shit Trump must be when you actually are around him for longer than 10 minutes.
Elon musk is on twitter saying this is a slippery slope tho. The South African.
 

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