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GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Soda being cheaper than water is a absolute joke btw, it happens here aswel on some occasions.

Tbh I think that we should go to a world where fruits, vegetables, nuts, rice, pasta and potatoes are tax free (I understand that it’s a bit more complicated for fish and meat). I wouldn’t be against a sugar tax if it gets compensated with lesser expenses for healthy foods.

Bottom line are your last sentences, I’d like to add that obesity at kids is a form of child abuse.
How about you take responsibility for your actions? You don't have to buy water, and there's plenty of healthy food for good prices.

If we really cared about making an impact on society by curbing consumption of deleterious product, alcohol would dwarf everything by quite a margin. If we allow people to ingest literal evil and bear responsibility for it, then the rest is more than fair game.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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How about you take responsibility for your actions? You don't have to buy water, and there's plenty of healthy food for good prices.

If we really cared about making an impact on society by curbing consumption of deleterious product, alcohol would dwarf everything by quite a margin. If we allow people to ingest literal evil and bear responsibility for it, then the rest is more than fair game.
All true. But then we are also stacking the deck at the same time.

There really is no good reason, other than stuffing bank accounts, that a bottle of soda should be cheaper than one of water. (Peeps in Flint, MI, Jackson, MS, parts of NYC, Baltimore, and even Hawaii don't always have that tap option.) Or that making a meal of Fritos cheaper and way easier to find versus buying ingredients that your great-grandmother would recognize as food.

You can stand at the holy pulpit and condemn the souls at your church with fire and brimstone over the evils of alcohol. But when you allow alcohol to become cheaper and more ubiquitous than healthier life alternatives, I'd say your market is optimizing for vice and moral failure.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,322
How about you take responsibility for your actions? You don't have to buy water, and there's plenty of healthy food for good prices.

If we really cared about making an impact on society by curbing consumption of deleterious product, alcohol would dwarf everything by quite a margin. If we allow people to ingest literal evil and bear responsibility for it, then the rest is more than fair game.

People who earn normal wages in North America and Europe have more than enough money to buy healthy food. That's just not an excuse whatsoever. In fact a lot of healthy food is already cheaper than the bullshit we eat most of the time. My diet is far from perfect, but the only person to blame for that is me.
 
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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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People who earn normal wages in North America are Europe have more than enough money to buy healthy food. That's just not an excuse whatsoever. In fact a lot of healthy food is already cheaper than the bullshit we eat most of the time. My diet is far from perfect, but the only person to blame for that is me.
I wouldn't presume you lived in a food desert, but they exist.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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All true. But then we are also stacking the deck at the same time.

There really is no good reason, other than stuffing bank accounts, that a bottle of soda should be cheaper than one of water. (Peeps in Flint, MI, Jackson, MS, parts of NYC, Baltimore, and even Hawaii don't always have that tap option.) Or that making a meal of Fritos cheaper and way easier to find versus buying ingredients that your great-grandmother would recognize as food.

You can stand at the holy pulpit and condemn the souls at your church with fire and brimstone over the evils of alcohol. But when you allow alcohol to become cheaper and more ubiquitous than healthier life alternatives, I'd say your market is optimizing for vice and moral failure.
Water filter costs like a 100 bucks? Think also in these places they even give em out for free. Also if your tap water is unsanitary that is some hardcore 3rd world shit and mere survival for the day/week should be your priority not longevity.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Water filter costs like a 100 bucks? Think also in these places they even give em out for free. Also if your tap water is unsanitary that is some hardcore 3rd world shit and mere survival for the day/week should be your priority not longevity.
According to the Fed's 2022 Economic Well-Being of U.S. Households survey released last month, some 37% of Americans lack enough money to cover a $400 emergency expense. Paying $100 extra bucks out of pocket for clean water is a tall order for what everyone should otherwise enjoy.

And call it hardcore 3rd world shit, but...

Today, more than two million Americans lack access to clean drinking water at home, and more than one million Americans don’t have the plumbing required to flush a toilet according to the U.S. gubment. And here's a gem from last Monday:
https://www.marketplace.org/2023/06...-communities-doesnt-stop-at-flint-or-jackson/
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
70,781
According to the Fed's 2022 Economic Well-Being of U.S. Households survey released last month, some 37% of Americans lack enough money to cover a $400 emergency expense. Paying $100 extra bucks out of pocket for clean water is a tall order for what everyone should otherwise enjoy.

And call it hardcore 3rd world shit, but...

Today, more than two million Americans lack access to clean drinking water at home, and more than one million Americans don’t have the plumbing required to flush a toilet according to the U.S. gubment. And here's a gem from last Monday:
https://www.marketplace.org/2023/06...-communities-doesnt-stop-at-flint-or-jackson/
Like i said if you don't even have a 100 for a necessity your concerns should be nowhere near life longevity. You should be about survival. But i bet you the very same people who cant string 400 bucks together all have iphones to complain about not having the 100 bucks for a water filter.

Also bringing up as an example ghetto blacks, the most self destructive culture i have ever come across, actually helps my argument.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I never buy it, i got a water bottle and fill that shit up everywhere. I never get people who buy water at the gym when there's a fountain with filtered water.
Yeah I don't buy it unless maybe I'm out having a meal and would have sparkling or something, or walking abroad. You can drink tap water here and it's fine hard or soft, but it does depend where you live. In Ibiza for example they don't drink or even wash dishes with their tap water. Also unsafe for UK/EU standards in Cyprus and Turkey.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,322
Yeah I don't buy it unless maybe I'm out having a meal and would have sparkling or something, or walking abroad. You can drink tap water here and it's fine hard or soft, but it does depend where you live. In Ibiza for example they don't drink or even wash dishes with their tap water. Also unsafe for UK/EU standards in Cyprus and Turkey.
A couple of cities in Italy too.

But overall he's mostly right. Tap water is perfectly fine almost all over the western world.

At work we've got something that softens it and adds sparkles if you want, so never drink bottled water there.
 
Jun 16, 2020
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Yeah I don't buy it unless maybe I'm out having a meal and would have sparkling or something, or walking abroad. You can drink tap water here and it's fine hard or soft, but it does depend where you live. In Ibiza for example they don't drink or even wash dishes with their tap water. Also unsafe for UK/EU standards in Cyprus and Turkey.
Turkey is crazy. My shower there smelled the same as the swimming pool.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Yeah I don't buy it unless maybe I'm out having a meal and would have sparkling or something, or walking abroad. You can drink tap water here and it's fine hard or soft, but it does depend where you live. In Ibiza for example they don't drink or even wash dishes with their tap water. Also unsafe for UK/EU standards in Cyprus and Turkey.
If you are just visiting, just go to a Starbucks or McDonald's they will fill you bottle for free with ice.
 

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