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Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Thanks Obama.


Also makes you miss the guy who made these assholes shit their pants.
Lol Iranian state TV made these propaganda videos for years including when Trump was president. idiots who understand Persian like the guy who tweeted it bring it up when convenient to drum up support for their cause. If you don’t know who Maryam Rajavi is, or what her organization stand for you’d better stay out of this.
It’s pretty obvious that Trump pulling out of JCPOA was the biggest factor in Iran pushing more towards the bomb. It turns out the policy of maximum pressure didn’t work. Trump and his cronies should own that shit.

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You mean the deal that gave iran money to finance houthis and support for syrian regime, or that it doesn't ensure in any way the non proliferation of nuclear weapons in fact it guarantees it.

The thugs in charge in iran onky understand force and unfortunately we are past the point of no return and that is all on Obama.
Oh yeah? Then why would starve millions? Why not hitting them with full force?
 

GordoDeCentral

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Lol Iranian state TV made these propaganda videos for years including when Trump was president. idiots who understand Persian like the guy who tweeted it bring it up when convenient to drum up support for their cause. If you don’t know who Maryam Rajavi is, or what her organization stand for you’d better stay out of this.
It’s pretty obvious that Trump pulling out of JCPOA was the biggest factor in Iran pushing more towards the bomb. It turns out the policy of maximum pressure didn’t work. Trump and his cronies should own that shit.

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Oh yeah? Then why would starve millions? Why not hitting them with full force?
I don't care who any of these people are nor do i care to know, if any official iranian channel issues any sort of threat they should be dealt with swiftly and with prejudice. Pulling out of a bad deal that gave iranian regime billions for doing nothinh to stop their program was necessary, denying so is foolish.

As for the bolded part, that's what obama should have done or at least let the israelis do as they did with iraq
 

Fab Fragment

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Dec 22, 2018
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Because he and his admin exhude weakness and weakness invites trouble, the Afghanistan evacuation was one of the biggest geopolitical blunders in modern American history.
No doubt Biden totally goofed up the Afghanistan evacuation and for this, he deserves not to be re-elected. However, to put the record straight, it was the Trump administration that went behind the back of the then Afghan government and struck a deal with the Taliban. That’s why Taliban walked in into Kabul without a shot being fired. In fact the Taliban nor the American forces fought each other.

Coming back to Biden, the guy is just a compromised puppet - a useful idiot.
 

ALC

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Nor do the US and 99% of the world fyi
thanks, apparently only 13-14 countries do.

US has an embassy there but they call it something else, some sort of loophole.

pelosi going there is just a way of recognizing the place I suppose and China likes to get butthurt about everything. @j0ker see what they did when Morey tweeted in favor of Hong Kong for example. They stopped showing Houston Rockets game on tv.
 

Ronn

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I don't care who any of these people are nor do i care to know, if any official iranian channel issues any sort of threat they should be dealt with swiftly and with prejudice. Pulling out of a bad deal that gave iranian regime billions for doing nothinh to stop their program was necessary, denying so is foolish.

As for the bolded part, that's what obama should have done or at least let the israelis do as they did with iraq
That’s not an official channel. It’s a telegram channel “reportedly close” to IRGC. As I said they do these kind of stuff for years now.
While JCPOA was a weak deal, pulling out of it has been disastrous. Like everything else John Bolton advocated for, it has not reached any of its objectives, while making millions of people poor and desperate.
 

JuveE46

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Dec 6, 2015
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The video says the purpose would be retaliation so at least they're not stupid enough to attack first.

But man, how stupid the world is getting.. Go and improve your quality of life and drop the lunacy.

Surely Biden must qualify as the weakest president the US has had.
Yeah retaliation. "Retaliation" for calling them out for supporting global terrorism, retaliation against its own people in the way of preventing a regime change and oppression of 70 out of 84 Milion people. Funny word retaliation is.
They won't attack first but once they are nuclear they will be more active and a problem impossible to solve.
 

GordoDeCentral

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That’s not an official channel. It’s a telegram channel “reportedly close” to IRGC. As I said they do these kind of stuff for years now.
While JCPOA was a weak deal, pulling out of it has been disastrous. Like everything else John Bolton advocated for, it has not reached any of its objectives, while making millions of people poor and desperate.
Then i stand corrected, i was under the impression it was the IRGC channel.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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No doubt Biden totally goofed up the Afghanistan evacuation and for this, he deserves not to be re-elected. However, to put the record straight, it was the Trump administration that went behind the back of the then Afghan government and struck a deal with the Taliban. That’s why Taliban walked in into Kabul without a shot being fired. In fact the Taliban nor the American forces fought each other.

Coming back to Biden, the guy is just a compromised puppet - a useful idiot.
Honestly there was no good way to end that shit show of a war. The book “no good man among the living” was an eye opener for me of Afghanistan. Highly recommended.

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Then i stand corrected, i was under the impression it was the IRGC channel.
This is the full news story
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202207301168
 
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j0ker

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Jan 5, 2006
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Because he and his admin exhude weakness and weakness invites trouble, the Afghanistan evacuation was one of the biggest geopolitical blunders in modern American history.
But wasn't that already on the works during Trump? One of his electoral promises when he won was that he would bring all troops home.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54968200

And abandoning Kurds was another major fuck up from him.
 

Ronn

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But wasn't that already on the works during Trump? One of his electoral promises when he won was that he would bring all troops home.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54968200

And abandoning Kurds was another major fuck up from him.
The actual evacuation could’ve been done much better though. But it’s mostly on Pentagon. Same people who fooled presidents over the years on how prepared Afghan army is fooled themselves in believing that the army would survive for at least a few months. I think same thing would’ve happened under Trump.
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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The actual evacuation could’ve been done much better though. But it’s mostly on Pentagon. Same people who fooled presidents over the years on how prepared Afghan army is fooled themselves in believing that the army would survive for at least a few months. I think same thing would’ve happened under Trump.
I read that the mission in Afghanistan was never about improving the country (army, infrastructure, education, etc.) nor fighting the taliban but it was mainly tax avoidance and money laundering for the US army. They were happy this dragged for years and they had no interest in a resolution
 

X Æ A-12

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I read that the mission in Afghanistan was never about improving the country (army, infrastructure, education, etc.) nor fighting the taliban but it was mainly tax avoidance and money laundering for the US army. They were happy this dragged for years and they had no interest in a resolution
Nah, but they realized over a decade ago it was failing and nobody wanted to take the responsibility/ legacy tarnishment of admitting it and finally withdrawing. Both Obama and Trump chose to pass the buck
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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I read that the mission in Afghanistan was never about improving the country (army, infrastructure, education, etc.) nor fighting the taliban but it was mainly tax avoidance and money laundering for the US army. They were happy this dragged for years and they had no interest in a resolution
Edit: that was the wrong link. Essentially most of the money was spent in Pentagon, but you always hear how Afghans were the corrupt ones.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/09/world/middleeast/afghanistan-war-cost.html



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Nah, but they realized over a decade ago it was failing and nobody wanted to take the responsibility/ legacy tarnishment of admitting it and finally withdrawing. Both Obama and Trump chose to pass the buck
to Trump's credit he actually did something about it.
 
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