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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Speaking of conspiracy theories, I wish I could come up with stuff like this

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Wrong conspiracy. Impossible Meats wants to make humanity dependent on overprocessed Big Ag corporate laboratory food - Soylent Green style - and paying licensing fees on every bite due to its patented intellectual property.

Plebs and smaller producers should never be able to grow their own.
 

Knowah

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Jan 28, 2013
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Is anybody surprised by the idpol bend of the current America?

KGB spies who defected told us this was one of the KGB's insights on defeating America as far back as the 1960s. Turn "freedom" into a negative and turn socialism into a positive. Talk to anybody sane from the 50s, 60s or 70s and they'd laugh at the idea of socialism having any redeeming qualities in reality. Sure, the theory has some positives but it is built on too much copium, too much hope, too many dreams that don't work in reality.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Is anybody surprised by the idpol bend of the current America?

KGB spies who defected told us this was one of the KGB's insights on defeating America as far back as the 1960s. Turn "freedom" into a negative and turn socialism into a positive. Talk to anybody sane from the 50s, 60s or 70s and they'd laugh at the idea of socialism having any redeeming qualities in reality. Sure, the theory has some positives but it is built on too much copium, too much hope, too many dreams that don't work in reality.
What you're thinking of is communism though.

Socialism has many degrees and I think a lot of Americans would consider almost the entirety of Western Europe socialist.

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To clarify, the theory I heard states that Occupy movement was brought down by plants, allegedly feds, corp goons, or something, who turned up to Occupy protests and complained that all the leadership of the protests were white men. They were successful at sowing discord, changing the focus of one from economic inequality to identity politics from what was supposed to have been an egalitarian working class movement

injection of identity politics into popular culture has continued ever since as the primary method for "elites" to derail any similar movement from ever having the opportunity to actually challenge real power by turning the working class against itself.

Again not saying its true but I could very much see how promoting "racial justice" or "gender equality" could be easily exploited by a cynic to sow discord.

Pretty sure I heard a recently leaked Amazon memo had that listed as their #1 tactic to fight unionization efforts

I'm not sure that this is a true conspiracy theory, because it reads more like a broad strategy that could be used by politicans, employers or even nations.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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Is anybody surprised by the idpol bend of the current America?

KGB spies who defected told us this was one of the KGB's insights on defeating America as far back as the 1960s. Turn "freedom" into a negative and turn socialism into a positive. Talk to anybody sane from the 50s, 60s or 70s and they'd laugh at the idea of socialism having any redeeming qualities in reality. Sure, the theory has some positives but it is built on too much copium, too much hope, too many dreams that don't work in reality.
Sorry, that’s just typical red scare talking points.
The American dream is truly dead. Most households making less than 6 figures cannot afford housing, healthcare and education. And the violent crime rate is about 10x compared to Western Europe. This place only works for the people who have a high income due to better paying jobs and opportunities and less taxes compared to Europe.
Countries like Finland and Denmark do a lot more for their citizens than the US does.
 

Knowah

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Jan 28, 2013
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Sorry, that’s just typical red scare talking points.
The American dream is truly dead. Most households making less than 6 figures cannot afford housing, healthcare and education. And the violent crime rate is about 10x compared to Western Europe. This place only works for the people who have a high income due to better paying jobs and opportunities and less taxes compared to Europe.
Countries like Finland and Denmark do a lot more for their citizens than the US does.
There is definitely some red scare involved probably, won't deny that.

But the idea that the American dream is dead is ridiculous. Tell me more about only households making six figures affording housing, healthcare, and education. I don't see that in America. In fact, I see a lot of wealth and success in America even with out own issues and problems that definitely need addressing. And yes, the country isn't perfect. Doesn't change that the country works for a lot of people to this day. More than the majority, more than a few hundred million. The violent crime is not 10x compared to Western Europe (lol gotta through "western" in there or else the point fails, right?) Even the very high numbers of WHO have it at 3 times more. Obviously not good and needs fixing but not as dire as you make it sound at all. Also, the high crime is VERY localized in the US. You take 3-4 very bad cities out of the equation and the country crime statistics would change massively. Chicago (where I live) for murders alone is insane.

Finland and Denmark do a lot more for their citizens for a lot different costs. And of course homogenized populations are totally different from a country full of immigrants. Not apples to apples, sadly. And it's not like Denmark/Finland don't have their own issues. Finland doing so much more for its homogenized population as its healthcare system nearly led to a government collapse due to insane costs. Again, not to pick on Finland, EVERY country has issues.

https://www.politico.eu/article/finland-government-sanna-marin-budget-compromise/

But of course, anybody who doesn't believe America is a very good country is free to go somewhere else. There are millions upon millions of people waiting to take their spot and work hard for this "unaffordable" country. And of course the good comes with the bad.

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Every country is different, every country has their own issues and successes. And America has problems now, just like any country, and has a lot of wealth and wealth citizens and things like education/homeownership/healthcare while not where they should be are still very much affordable for most of the country. Anybody saying any different isn't living in reality sadly.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Is anybody surprised by the idpol bend of the current America?

KGB spies who defected told us this was one of the KGB's insights on defeating America as far back as the 1960s. Turn "freedom" into a negative and turn socialism into a positive. Talk to anybody sane from the 50s, 60s or 70s and they'd laugh at the idea of socialism having any redeeming qualities in reality. Sure, the theory has some positives but it is built on too much copium, too much hope, too many dreams that don't work in reality.
Socialism doesn’t equal communism, especially in terms of Social democracy. And the places that consistently rank highest on quality of life indexes are places that are more or less Social Democracies. Not to mention that America itself has all sorts of Socialist policies in place already even if the politicians mostly refuse to call them that.

But certainly if you are talking communism or the most extreme left forms of socialism I definitely agree with you.
 
Apr 12, 2004
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Socialism doesn’t equal communism, especially in terms of Social democracy. And the places that consistently rank highest on quality of life indexes are places that are more or less Social Democracies. Not to mention that America itself has all sorts of Socialist policies in place already even if the politicians mostly refuse to call them that.

But certainly if you are talking communism or the most extreme left forms of socialism I definitely agree with you.
Only in the same way it does in the UK, Germany, et cetera.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Why is Trudeau killing fertilizer :sad: @Post Ironic

I love fertilizer no matter why u close him down.
To be fair to Trudeau, etc. the waste when using nitrogen fertilizer by broadcast spreading is obscene.

And given we are all about efficiency, right ;) , targeted nitrogen fertilizer application could produce the same crop yields with 30% of the fertilizer use. And an added benefit would be less breakdown of soil due to excess nitrogen and better yields long term.

But against Trudeau here, this is just mostly silly Eco-posturing, without looking at the science of the why and how it should be done.
 

JuveE46

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Dec 6, 2015
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Another murica story

So a friend has this upscale shop here in LA selling Christmas stuff. Went there to visit as we are in the office we hear this black lady raise her voice.
Apparently she asked for a black Santa and they didn't have one so she's yelling how the next time they better have one.
The husband was kind of just standing there lol
Rediculous has no limits.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Another murica story

So a friend has this upscale shop here in LA selling Christmas stuff. Went there to visit as we are in the office we hear this black lady raise her voice.
Apparently she asked for a black Santa and they didn't have one so she's yelling how the next time they better have one.
The husband was kind of just standing there lol
Rediculous has no limits.
We wuz Santas
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Nice. You gotta try it on for sizing, after all. It better fit if you have to wear it until the maggots take over.

Another murica story

So a friend has this upscale shop here in LA selling Christmas stuff. Went there to visit as we are in the office we hear this black lady raise her voice.
Apparently she asked for a black Santa and they didn't have one so she's yelling how the next time they better have one.
The husband was kind of just standing there lol
Rediculous has no limits.
You gotta pre-order. Just like the black Satans.

Speaking of which, is this the most Twitter trend list ever or what??

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Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Thats the twitter trend feed of the Anti-Christ.


Alls that missing is "the virtue of wearing clogg shoes" and "my favourite place to go is the dentist". To complete the list tell tale signs of pure evil.
 

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