'Murica! (570 Viewers)

[U Picciriddu]

Are automatic weapons that much more dangerous/deadly when it comes to mass shootings anyway? Or am I missing something when it comes to calling a weapon an “assault weapon”?

If you pull the trigger with a automatic weapon, you basically shoot all the bullets in a weapon within a few seconds. It’s very inaccurate and most of them will miss the target. I think it’s forbidden in most countries for police usage and stuff because it’s impossible to just shoot one or two rounds in someone’s legs in order to arrest them.

For semi-automatic weapons it’s just how fast you call pull the trigger. And there’s ‘burst’ where you shoot 3 rounds every time you pull the trigger, as seen on many rifles. Most weapons can be modified anyway.

Its all military equipment.

 

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[X Æ A-12]

Use a bow and arrow like a real man.

That still gives you unfair advantage. If you can't kill it with your bare hands, then accept your spot lower on the food chain

 

[swag]

That still gives you unfair advantage. If you can't kill it with your bare hands, then accept your spot lower on the food chain

Exactly.

There was a time in my animal-loving youth that I didn't like the gratuitous kill of hunters. Still don't on the gratuitous side. In fact, any outward demonstration of man dominating nature is kind of a tone deaf joke in the Anthropocene (including climbing Mt. Everest, etc.).

But for hunters who actually take the moral responsibility to kill what they eat? That's 1000x more respectable than the love-animals patsy who outsources their murder and dismemberment to some schlub with a roll of cellophane wrap and styrofoam packaging who risks losing his fingers to a saw every day. These clowns falsely wash their hands of any responsibility for the means for how they need to live.

But rapid-reload rifles? Those are for people with bad marksmanship skills or just a taste for human blood.

 

[campionesidd]

That still gives you unfair advantage. If you can't kill it with your bare hands, then accept your spot lower on the food chain

Good point.

 

[Post Ironic]

Having something semi auto is useful if you are hunting something potentially dangerous that might rush you ie boar, bear, moose. I don't think anyone is advocating full auto weapons be legal.

Don’t high capacity magazines and bump stocks basically make a semi-auto rifle borderline full auto? And aren’t bump stocks legal?

 

[X Æ A-12]

Don’t high capacity magazines and bump stocks basically make a semi-auto rifle borderline full auto? And aren’t bump stocks legal?

bump stocks are now illegal latest I heard.'

Though you don't need a bump stock to bump fire:

 

[Post Ironic]

bump stocks are now illegal latest I heard.'

Though you don't need a bump stock to bump fire:

Just looked it up. And they were ordered to be made illegal by the Donald

It’s also probably pretty easy to mod a semi-auto AR-15 in a full auto weapon if one is so inclined.

 

[Ronn]

Don’t high capacity magazines and bump stocks basically make a semi-auto rifle borderline full auto? And aren’t bump stocks legal?

Used to be but not anymore
https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/bump-stocks

 

[X Æ A-12]

Just looked it up. And they were ordered to be made illegal by the Donald

It’s also probably pretty easy to mod a semi-auto AR-15 in a full auto weapon if one is so inclined.

You can also buy an 80% lower, drill the necessary holes yourself, then buy the rest of the parts online and build an AR15 in your garage without ever purchasing anything that legally counts as a firearm

 

[Juve_fanatic]

I think that the way USA can effectively battle these mass shootings and the general gun problems it has is by lowering the legal age limit a person can legally go and buy a fully automatic rifle with just an ID card, from 18 years of age to 12 years of age.

 

[swag]

Between the social divisions and the proliferation of weaponry, I see America's future looking a lot more like South Africa. (I guess that suits Elon Musk?)

Half the us GNP is going to be spent on security. There will be heavily armed businesses and homes and neighborhoods and schools of the "haves". With them hiring security equipment and security detail bodies of the "have nots", to fend off the violence among their hired security guards' neighbors. With the added fun of the usual Oscar Pistorius blowing away his girlfriend among the haves.

 

[Juve_fanatic]

Between the social divisions and the proliferation of weaponry, I see America's future looking a lot more like South Africa. (I guess that suits Elon Musk?)

Half the us GNP is going to be spent on security. There will be heavily armed businesses and homes and neighborhoods and schools of the "haves". With them hiring security equipment and security detail bodies of the "have nots", to fend off the violence among their hired security guards' neighbors. With the added fun of the usual Oscar Pistorius blowing away his girlfriend among the haves.

Whats amazing to me, coming from a part of the world where its almost impossible to legally obtain a gun and literally 90% of people dont even think about owning a gun, is how in the name of God can an 18 year old go and buy automatic rifles, then go back, buy 300+ rounds for those guns and no one raises an eyebrow, gets alerted, informs the authorities to at least give it a quick check regardless that it is completly legal..... Its just amazing really.

 

[Ronn]

What a fantastic era we’re living in

 

[campionesidd]

Whats amazing to me, coming from a part of the world where its almost impossible to legally obtain a gun and literally 90% of people dont even think about owning a gun, is how in the name of God can an 18 year old go and buy automatic rifles, then go back, buy 300+ rounds for those guns and no one raises an eyebrow, gets alerted, informs the authorities to at least give it a quick check regardless that it is completly legal..... Its just amazing really.

It’s insane. You can’t buy cigarettes or alcohol if you’re 18 but you can buy a mass murdering weapon.

 

[Mokku]

Given that guns will never be banned, how about non-lethal ammunition? Surely that would bring fatalities down by 80% at least.

 

[swag]

Whats amazing to me, coming from a part of the world where its almost impossible to legally obtain a gun and literally 90% of people dont even think about owning a gun, is how in the name of God can an 18 year old go and buy automatic rifles, then go back, buy 300+ rounds for those guns and no one raises an eyebrow, gets alerted, informs the authorities to at least give it a quick check regardless that it is completly legal..... Its just amazing really.

No argument.

But there is a virtuous cycle at work here:

More fear -> More gun buyers -> More shootings -> More fear....

 

[ALC]

Between the social divisions and the proliferation of weaponry, I see America's future looking a lot more like South Africa. (I guess that suits Elon Musk?)

Half the us GNP is going to be spent on security. There will be heavily armed businesses and homes and neighborhoods and schools of the "haves". With them hiring security equipment and security detail bodies of the "have nots", to fend off the violence among their hired security guards' neighbors. With the added fun of the usual Oscar Pistorius blowing away his girlfriend among the haves.

that’s exactly what our founding fathers pictured when they wrote the constitution

 

[X Æ A-12]

Between the social divisions and the proliferation of weaponry, I see America's future looking a lot more like South Africa. (I guess that suits Elon Musk?)

Half the us GNP is going to be spent on security. There will be heavily armed businesses and homes and neighborhoods and schools of the "haves". With them hiring security equipment and security detail bodies of the "have nots", to fend off the violence among their hired security guards' neighbors. With the added fun of the usual Oscar Pistorius blowing away his girlfriend among the haves.

The future gonna be lit

 

[GordoDeCentral]

If people want europe they can go to europe, pilgrims didn't leave everything behind, brave high seas, and the unknown to be in a place as oppressive as the one they left. Freedom and its responsabilities(cost) are not for everyone. If as an american you don't believe in the exceptionalism of this nation then you are in the wrong place.

 

[Hust]

If people want europe they can go to europe, pilgrims didn't leave everything behind, brave high seas, and the unknown to be in a place as oppressive as the one they left. Freedom and its responsabilities(cost) are not for everyone. If as an american you don't believe in the exceptionalism of this nation then you are in the wrong place.

God damn I love you.