'Murica! (88 Viewers)

[campionesidd]

You get caught, you face the music.

I much as I hate Trump, the Obama administration was hardly different when it came to border policy.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

I much as I hate Trump, the Obama administration was hardly different when it came to border policy.

Why have a border if anyone and everyone can just come in, what i love is how all the people crying about this offer 0 solutions

 

[X Æ A-12]

Why have a border if anyone and everyone can just come in, what i love is how all the people crying about this offer 0 solutions

What do you mean 0 solutions?

Their solution is a world without borders where there are no illegal humans and we are all citizems of the world cause one love and shit What is unreasonable about that?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

You get caught, you face the music.

Separating children from their parents and keeping them in detention centres though?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Separating children from their parents and keeping them in detention centres though?

I say that's a choice a parent makes, we are not talking about war zones this is an economically motivated migration. And I don't begrudge them for trying, BUT when you do get caught don't cry about it and don't use your kids to get out of it.

 

[Maddy]

I say that's a choice a parent makes, we are not talking about war zones this is an economically motivated migration. And I don't begrudge them for trying, BUT when you do get caught don't cry about it and don't use your kids to get out of it.

Economical migration needs to stop and it requires - in short term - inhumane measures.

 

[Seven]

I say that's a choice a parent makes, we are not talking about war zones this is an economically motivated migration. And I don't begrudge them for trying, BUT when you do get caught don't cry about it and don't use your kids to get out of it.

Hm. I see your point, but you're still punishing (and probably harming) children for something they didn't choose to do.

Honestly I'm not sure what solution I'd come up with. Truth is (illegal) immigration is a very complex topic.

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[Seven]

What do you mean 0 solutions?

Their solution is a world without borders where there are no illegal humans and we are all citizems of the world cause one love and shit What is unreasonable about that?

And have Americans come to Europe to get healthcare? Dear God no. You can die of your toxic food induced diabetes right there, mister.

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[GordoDeCentral]

Hm. I see your point, but you're still punishing (and probably harming) children for something they didn't choose to do.

Honestly I'm not sure what solution I'd come up with. Truth is (illegal) immigration is a very complex topic.

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Honestly? Negative eugenics.

 

[Nzoric]

Economical migration needs to stop and it requires - in short term - inhumane measures.

youve strayed far from the radical path

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[Seven]

Economical migration needs to stop and it requires - in short term - inhumane measures.

You want to use short term measures to stop a process that has existed since the dawn of time? Good luck with that.

Honestly? Negative eugenics.

In what practical way?

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[X Æ A-12]

And have Americans come to Europe to get healthcare? Dear God no. You can die of your toxic food induced diabetes right there, mister.

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I love how you constantly bring this shit up even in an unrelated discussion.

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Economical migration needs to stop and it requires - in short term - inhumane measures.

And the people to blame are the ones who opened the doors to something that was so obviously unsustainable in the long term

 

[Seven]

I love how you constantly bring this shit up even in an unrelated discussion.

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And the people to blame are the ones who opened the doors to something that was so obviously unsustainable in the long term

I was obviously joking. But I do like the arrogance of the US and the EU to assume that everyone wants to live there.

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[X Æ A-12]

I was obviously joking. But I do like the arrogance of the US and the EU to assume that everyone wants to live there.

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Who said everyone wants to live there? But its pretty obvious that more than enough to be an issue do.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

You want to use short term measures to stop a process that has existed since the dawn of time? Good luck with that.In what practical way?

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Kinda like military conscription for poor countries, you have no money, job, or any useful skill you get sterilized. No sense further burdening society with your proginy. I think in the world we live in today with fast depleting resources, giving birth ought to be a privilege and not a right.

 

[Seven]

Kinda like military conscription for poor countries, you have no money, job, or any useful skill you get sterilized. No sense further burdening society with your proginy. I think in the world we live in today with fast depleting resources, giving birth ought to be a privilege and not a right.

I understand the idea, but it would be impossible to agree upon the criteria. And then of course there's the question if we really want to do this from a moral point or view.

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[GordoDeCentral]

I understand the idea, but it would be impossible to agree upon the criteria. And then of course there's the question if we really want to do this from a moral point or view.

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I agree about the morality aspect, but we are talking about failed states, imposing and enforcing a child tax would be a joke

 

[Maddy]

And the people to blame are the ones who opened the doors to something that was so obviously unsustainable in the long term

No.

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You want to use short term measures to stop a process that has existed since the dawn of time? Good luck with that.In what practical way?

No.

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youve strayed far from the radical path

Yes. (thankfully)

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Why have a border if anyone and everyone can just come in, what i love is how all the people crying about this offer 0 solutions

I say that's a choice a parent makes, we are not talking about war zones this is an economically motivated migration. And I don't begrudge them for trying, BUT when you do get caught don't cry about it and don't use your kids to get out of it.

Kinda like military conscription for poor countries, you have no money, job, or any useful skill you get sterilized. No sense further burdening society with your proginy. I think in the world we live in today with fast depleting resources, giving birth ought to be a privilege and not a right.

Right on the money

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I say that's a choice a parent makes, we are not talking about war zones this is an economically motivated migration. And I don't begrudge them for trying, BUT when you do get caught don't cry about it and don't use your kids to get out of it.

Why not at least keep them detained together until deportation?