'Murica! (131 Viewers)

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,907
Syria has mirrors to Iraq we removed sad dam and isis arose. What if we remove Assad what then? Yet his atrocities can’t go unpunished
Let's not pretend America is any of this for humanitarian reasons. The last time that happened was in the mid 90's.
Also, America props up murderers all over the world, simply because their regimes favor US interests.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,907
Let’s be honest do any governments truly care about the people ? We’re a means to their power. Placating the masses gets you stroke.
Finally something I can agree with.
BTW, the Europeans and Canadians here are very vocal in their dissent to your views because they are seen as far-right views in these parts of the world. The political spectrum in America is shifted so far to the right that your views are mainstream for nearly half the country.
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,126
Finally something I can agree with.
BTW, the Europeans and Canadians here are very vocal in their dissent to your views because they are seen as far-right views in these parts of the world. The political spectrum in America is shifted so far to the right that your views are mainstream for nearly half the country.
Yeah I get that. America has shifted. These aren’t far right views. I can see how to them it would seem that way
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,924
Why is it shitty?

Stop supporting Israel and meddling in the region, and suddenly there is no need for a deal to begin with.
Because it basically allows them carte Blanche in 10 years to build nukes
It actually is not that bad of a deal from nukes perspective. Iran is free from the deal in 10 years, but not free to build nukes since US and Europe, also free from the deal, will bring back sanctions in no time of even take military action if there's any indication that Iran is moving towards that direction. The issue with Iran deal is that US had a huge leverage with the sanctions system and could use it to negotiate something beyond nuclear matter. That might be a valid criticism, but it's also all in hindsight since you don't know how much Iran was willing to give up anyway. Also, US supporting Saudi Arabia's exploits in Yemen hardly has the moral high ground to stop Iran from meddling in the region.
Withdrawing from the deal is probably the worst option US has at this moment. Iran hardliners will block any new attempt on negotiations even if economy collapses (Rial has lost half of its value since November). Regular people will also be baffled how US can go back on a deal they signed themselves.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
42,253
"These aren't far right views" says the Christian fundamentalist. ::lol3::

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Let's not pretend America is any of this for humanitarian reasons. The last time that happened was in the mid 90's.
Also, America props up murderers all over the world, simply because their regimes favor US interests.
America did such a great job in the mid 90s preventing the genocide in Rwanda. :p
 

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