'Murica! (163 Viewers)

[AndreaCristiano]

What's your view on Syria. Many of Trump supporters seem to be at loggerheads with him on this issue.

Syria is tough on the one hand Assad is a monster who gases his own people on the other hand the geo political issues we face with Russia and to an extent Iran for getting involved makes it a quagmire

 

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[Fr3sh]

Couldn't even get a case to fit his mixtapes properly

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Syria has mirrors to Iraq we removed sad dam and isis arose. What if we remove Assad what then? Yet his atrocities can’t go unpunished

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Syria is tough on the one hand Assad is a monster who gases his own people on the other hand the geo political issues we face with Russia and to an extent Iran for getting involved makes it a quagmire

Why do you care about human rights violations in Syria in particular, as opposed to other situations all around the world?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Why do you care about human rights abuse in Syria in particular, as opposed to other situations all around the world?

I care about them everywhere Syria Africa China North Korea the USA Europe

 

[Cerval]

I never advocated leaving just think the deal sucked

You should try developing critical thinking

 

[campionesidd]

Syria has mirrors to Iraq we removed sad dam and isis arose. What if we remove Assad what then? Yet his atrocities can’t go unpunished

Let's not pretend America is any of this for humanitarian reasons. The last time that happened was in the mid 90's.
Also, America props up murderers all over the world, simply because their regimes favor US interests.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Let's not pretend America is any of this for humanitarian reasons. The last time that happened was in the mid 90's.
Also, America props up murderers all over the world, simply because their regimes favor US interests.

Didn’t say America I said me. They asked my opinion not America

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I care about them everywhere Syria Africa China North Korea the USA Europe

Okay so why do you think your Government and military is involved in Syria specifically?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Okay so why do you think your Government and military is involved in Syria specifically?

As most governments geopolitical power. Yet I thought you were asking my personal opinion

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

As most governments geopolitical power. Yet I thought you were asking my personal opinion

I am asking your opinion.

Anyway glad you know it's not the Syrian people they care about

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I am asking your opinion.

Anyway glad you know it's not the Syrian people they care about

Let’s be honest do any governments truly care about the people ? We’re a means to their power. Placating the masses gets you stroke.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

When we elect a politician we choose the devil who most aligns with our mind set. Fully knowing that politicians are what they are

 

[campionesidd]

Let’s be honest do any governments truly care about the people ? We’re a means to their power. Placating the masses gets you stroke.

Finally something I can agree with.
BTW, the Europeans and Canadians here are very vocal in their dissent to your views because they are seen as far-right views in these parts of the world. The political spectrum in America is shifted so far to the right that your views are mainstream for nearly half the country.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Finally something I can agree with.
BTW, the Europeans and Canadians here are very vocal in their dissent to your views because they are seen as far-right views in these parts of the world. The political spectrum in America is shifted so far to the right that your views are mainstream for nearly half the country.

Yeah I get that. America has shifted. These aren’t far right views. I can see how to them it would seem that way

 

[IliveForJuve]

Trump voters should never be allowed to vote again.

 

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You should try developing critical thinking

 

[Ronn]

Why is it shitty?

Stop supporting Israel and meddling in the region, and suddenly there is no need for a deal to begin with.

Because it basically allows them carte Blanche in 10 years to build nukes

It actually is not that bad of a deal from nukes perspective. Iran is free from the deal in 10 years, but not free to build nukes since US and Europe, also free from the deal, will bring back sanctions in no time of even take military action if there's any indication that Iran is moving towards that direction. The issue with Iran deal is that US had a huge leverage with the sanctions system and could use it to negotiate something beyond nuclear matter. That might be a valid criticism, but it's also all in hindsight since you don't know how much Iran was willing to give up anyway. Also, US supporting Saudi Arabia's exploits in Yemen hardly has the moral high ground to stop Iran from meddling in the region.
Withdrawing from the deal is probably the worst option US has at this moment. Iran hardliners will block any new attempt on negotiations even if economy collapses (Rial has lost half of its value since November). Regular people will also be baffled how US can go back on a deal they signed themselves.

 

[campionesidd]

Yeah I get that. America has shifted. These aren’t far right views. I can see how to them it would seem that way

Certainly not by American standards. My views are pretty left leaning in America, but many Europeans would consider me center right.

 

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"These aren't far right views" says the Christian fundamentalist. ::

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Let's not pretend America is any of this for humanitarian reasons. The last time that happened was in the mid 90's.
Also, America props up murderers all over the world, simply because their regimes favor US interests.

America did such a great job in the mid 90s preventing the genocide in Rwanda.