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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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This is just you repeating the same bullshit that has been spewed over and over again by right wing political parties in Belgium. But we do have a very inefficient welfare system and one that is holding people back, I agree with you there. We'd be far better off if we replaced it with basic income. Right now you have people getting 1,000 Euros on welfare and they'd get maybe 1,100 working full time jobs. I can't blame them for choosing welfare, especially when they might have kids to worry about.



Just posts above you were sayings words don't matter, but actions do. Yet now you're blaming Obama for a bad speech. Which one is it, Zach? Please name me three concrete things you think Obama fucked up and how he fucked them up. Given your grief with Obama three should be fairly easy.



When was the last time you saw feminists or 'bernie people' literally burn human beings?



It's easy to see why people might be getting frustrated. You have little to no general knowledge when it comes to politics and you act as if you know it all. And to make it so much worse you're so fucking gullible it's painful to watch.
1)
No, that is so fucking wrong. You start at 1100 to end at 2100. Thats called wanting to go forward in life. This is where we differ
You say its just the problem of the goverment. In belgium mainly PS.
I say its a combination of culture and goverment.

2)
Nice attempt at strawmanning that :tup: But you are twisting this wrongly
I said i dont care about Trump's words, you said you greatly care and adore Obama's words.
Now Obama is a calculated model speaker, who's words represent exactly his policy. So i pointed out his oh so important words to you, were absolute garbage in that very incident, while bush of all people, gave a magnificent speech.

3)
When was the last time we saw democrat voting BLM people shoot and kill several cops ?
When was the last time we saw 4 black thugs turture a handicapped person cause he was white and voted trump ?

4)
Yes, because i dont follow your leftist democratic opinions and moral superiority, i know nothing of politics since i support the conservative republican side :tup:
Yes, i am gullable and its not like 100% of the news about america is trashing trump and reps since decades :tup:


As Ben Shaprio said, leftist start a discussion by labelling you a racist biggot homophobe who hates the poor.

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Zach and Zoso would be the kinda people that protested against NWA when they first came out.
ALC is the kind of people that loves to label people cause its fits the box, even if it means he sounds like a complete idiot when thinking longer then 0.3 seconds.


I'm the guy that consistantly fights the right of free speech. Of no goverment beeing involved. Who listens to black/death/trash metal who's texts are significantly worse.

I liked public enemy. I dont like NWA but thats just cause their songs are shit in my personal opinion.



Please remind me the political preference of the snowflakes in university who want to ban certain words on campusses ?



i dont give a damn about lyrics, but will mock the majority of gangsta rap for beeing mostly "nigga nigga nigga, money money bitch ho money nigga ho bitch , got 9 gunshotwoonds money who nigger bling bling nigga ho bithc, the hood, the steet, ho nigga the hood street money bling.

I find it idiotic, but i'll defend their right to say and make it

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You mean my reply to you? Why?

As I've said, the left wing of the democrats would be moderately right wing in a lot of issues, but in some their views would definitely see them at home at the European left wing movements as well.



Well, I'd say he definitely can, but you're right, he hasn't been yet :D

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Please, do tell us why CNN is wrong here.

And no one thinks CNN is unbiased ffs, every news organisation and journalist is.
I absolutely love how you are defending CNN by putting everyone else at their level.


Its incredibly amusing.
 

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Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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God. I am going to need some time to respond to this. But the biggest gem has to be that you present yourself as a free speech champion. How can you not see that Trump is actively trying to suppress that right by portraying the media as fake?

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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1)
No, that is so fucking wrong. You start at 1100 to end at 2100. Thats called wanting to go forward in life. This is where we differ
You say its just the problem of the goverment. In belgium mainly PS.
I say its a combination of culture and goverment.
You completely misunderstood what I said about basic income. I said welfare in Belgium now means that someone who's unemployed goes from 1,000 to 1,100. I want basic income because it allows them to go from 1,000 to 2,000. As such they'd actually have an incentive to work.

2)
Nice attempt at strawmanning that :tup: But you are twisting this wrongly
I said i dont care about Trump's words, you said you greatly care and adore Obama's words.
Now Obama is a calculated model speaker, who's words represent exactly his policy. So i pointed out his oh so important words to you, were absolute garbage in that very incident, while bush of all people, gave a magnificent speech.
I never said anything remotely like that. Obama's simply eloquent. You're also mixing up all sorts of things here. You said you didn't care about Trump's words, but looked at his actions. I'm telling you to do the same for Obama. You can't stand the guy. Simply name me three things he did completely wrong. It should not be hard.

3)
When was the last time we saw democrat voting BLM people shoot and kill several cops ?
When was the last time we saw 4 black thugs turture a handicapped person cause he was white and voted trump ?
I never realised feminazis are black thugs. It's also funny that you wouldn't believe anything you see on CNN, but 1 video on a smartphone is obviously considered a great source. Man, what kind of lalalaland do you live in?

4)
Yes, because i dont follow your leftist democratic opinions and moral superiority, i know nothing of politics since i support the conservative republican side :tup:
Yes, i am gullable and its not like 100% of the news about america is trashing trump and reps since decades :tup:

As Ben Shaprio said, leftist start a discussion by labelling you a racist biggot homophobe who hates the poor.
No, you know nothing about politics, because it is crystal clear you have no general knowledge about it at all. And I never called you a racist homophobe, so wtf are you yapping about?

And again "100% of the news" - dude, seriously, wtf? Are you fucking crazy?
 

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God. I am going to need some time to respond to this. But the biggest gem has to be that you present yourself as a free speech champion. How can you not see that Trump is actively trying to suppress that right by portraying the media as fake?

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Trump put a gag order on most of the agencies.

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Also, no more muslims will be entering the country. Including Iraqi refugees. Which is laughable, especially since many of these refugees waiting to enter the US were translators or guides that aided the US military and are now in danger for their lives.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Trump put a gag order on most of the agencies.

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Also, no more muslims will be entering the country. Including Iraqi refugees. Which is laughable, especially since many of these refugees waiting to enter the US were translators or guides that aided the US military and are now in danger for their lives.

And that's a disgrace. But I truly believe this whole Trump ordeal is something we just need to get through before we can start to improve society. But you can be sure I will hold Andy and Zach accountable. Because they'll be among the first to absolve themselves, you'll see.
 

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Well, in case you guys don't. Trump is actually doing things and will continue to do things. This month he wants to eliminate some parts of the federal government. There may be other divisions of the EPA, Interior, etc that get added.

Here is a list of some of the agencies Trump is looking to eliminate in an attempt to reduce the deficit:

Corporation For Public Broadcasting (Sesame Street)
National Endowment for the Arts (Obvious)
National Endowment for the Humanities (Obvious)
Minority Business Development Agency (Obvious)
Economic Development Administration (assists poor communities with infrastructure needs)
International Trade Administration (helps businesses sell their products overseas)
Manufacturing Extension Partnership (assists small to medium sized manufacturers improve and grow)
Office of Community Oriented Policing Services (helps local communities recruit police)
Office of Violence Against Women (tries to reduce domestic violence)
Legal Services Corporation (provide legals services for the poor)
Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department (pretty obvious)
Environment and Natural Resources Division of the Justice Department (if you break pollution laws, they come for you)
Overseas Private Investment Corporation (helps businesses invest in large scale operations overseas)
UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (obvious)
Office of Electricity Deliverability and Energy Reliability (invests in electricity grid projects for modernization)
Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (obvious)
Office of Fossil Energy (helped develop clean coal tech, works to limit carbon footprint of nation)
 

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And that's a disgrace. But I truly believe this whole Trump ordeal is something we just need to get through before we can start to improve society. But you can be sure I will hold Andy and Zach accountable. Because they'll be among the first to absolve themselves, you'll see.
I can keep posting about his executive orders so you guys have something less speculative to argue about. People keeps saying let's wait and see what he does, but they don't realize that he's doing. So the time for waiting is over.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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I can keep posting about his executive orders so you guys have something less speculative to argue about. People keeps saying let's wait and see what he does, but they don't realize that he's doing. So the time for waiting is over.
Please, by all means do.
 

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He's anti-establishment, they said
True.

Some notes that I can see. Public Broadcasting raises most of it's money itself. As does the Overseas Private Investment Corporation. And the endowments for the Arts and Humanities. I don't have the numbers but I'm willing to be this is about 3 to 5 billion in cuts maybe less. I'm sure more will follow. But for me cutting the Civil Rights Division of the Dept of Justice is a little eye raising.

But it doesn't matter what I think, I thought I would share the things he is doing (especially since he's averaging about 2 Exec Orders a day)so we can have more discussion than folks being like "this is how I feel" and then Zoso posts a meme.:D
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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True.

Some notes that I can see. Public Broadcasting raises most of it's money itself. As does the Overseas Private Investment Corporation. And the endowments for the Arts and Humanities. I don't have the numbers but I'm willing to be this is about 3 to 5 billion in cuts maybe less. I'm sure more will follow. But for me cutting the Civil Rights Division of the Dept of Justice is a little eye raising.

But it doesn't matter what I think, I thought I would share the things he is doing (especially since he's averaging about 2 Exec Orders a day)so we can have more discussion than folks being like "this is how I feel" and then Zoso posts a meme.:D
Just referring to him removing all environmental barriers, for the benefit of the oil industry.
 

GordoDeCentral

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And that's a disgrace. But I truly believe this whole Trump ordeal is something we just need to get through before we can start to improve society. But you can be sure I will hold Andy and Zach accountable. Because they'll be among the first to absolve themselves, you'll see.
History dialectical :agree:


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Quoting fucking Ben Shapiro :lol:
Yuck indeed
 

Knowah

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Jan 28, 2013
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When was the last time you saw feminists or 'bernie people' literally burn human beings?
As a moderate not picking sides, I have to ask. When was the last time you saw the otjhr side of that radical coin burn human beings? When was the last rightwing organized human burning? That's not really a fair comment from you as you mention it like it was just last week. It was over fifty years ago. At least!

Or, as Zach said, torture another human being over Facebook live?
 

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