'Murica! (378 Viewers)

[Ronn]

Two things:

1- Newspapers are not what they used to be anymore. The printed versions are going extinct. And their online version is their main representatives. This new format is not a mere written format, it includes videos, audios, user comments, live updates, everything. On the other side, TV channels are no different either, so the online version of CNN is as popular, if not more than its broadcast version. So the lines are totally blurring. And they all are more like multimedia news outlets than simple news papers or TV channels. So The New York Times, the Washington post, USA Today, or others, endorsing a candidate today is not the same as it used to be 20 years ago. And these journalists know this better than any of us, so they going forward and doing it anyways makes it even worse.
So to those saying its common for newspapers to endorse a candidate, I say, bullshit.

Also, since when is releasing an editorial piece, telling people not to vote for Trump, the same as endorsing Clinton?

2- Seriously, fvck Trump for all I care. But the other day the guy said on the second debate that he'd appoint a special prosecutor for the email probe, and when Clinton said "good thing you're not in charge in this country", he said, "because you'd be in jail." Meaning, she is lying and shouldn't get away with it, like the cover up going on right now.
But then on CNN and elsewhere they twisted his words as saying, he promised he'd put Clinton in jail if he becomes the president. And then aired some roundtable with Blitzer et al and liken him to Hitler and Stalin who put their opponents in jail.
How's that for twisting words? and isn't this blatantly implying people should not vote for him?

What he actually said was "I will instruct my AG to appoint a special prosecutor..."
Justice Department should operate apolitically. President should not command his AG to do so. AG should review the facts and act independently.
It's funny that you worry about media being impartial but impartiality of the justice system is overlooked.

 

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[campionesidd]

Here is how media polling works.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...osed-about-that-nbcwsj-clinton-11-point-poll/

Quite clearly more of the "elite" and certainly Wall Street support Clinton.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hedge-fund-money-has-vastly-favored-clinton-over-trump-1469784601

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/09/hil...ng_millions_into_her_campaign_to_defeat_trum/

That is exactly what the article I linked addresses. It is a FACT that more people in this country identify as Democrat rather than Republican. The polls do not go out of their way to get 33% Democrat, 33% Republican and 33% Independents, they identify a sample of the population that represents the actual one.

Look at the 2008 and 2012 elections:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008#Voter_demographics
39% were Democratic and 32% Republican.
in 2012:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Voter_demographics
Almost the same stats,
38% Democratic and 32% Republican.

These are just facts, you can try to spin them any which way you want.

 

[donpiero]

What he actually said was "I will instruct my AG to appoint a special prosecutor..."
Justice Department should operate apolitically. President should not command his AG to do so. AG should review the facts and act independently.
It's funny that you worry about media being impartial but impartiality of the justice system is overlooked.

Justice system sure is impartial right now, I mean Obama definitely isn't using his influence to disrupt the course of justice in that email scandal. And it sure is funny, just like you said.

 

[BayernMan12]

Here is how media polling works.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...osed-about-that-nbcwsj-clinton-11-point-poll/

Quite clearly more of the "elite" and certainly Wall Street support Clinton.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hedge-fund-money-has-vastly-favored-clinton-over-trump-1469784601

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/09/hil...ng_millions_into_her_campaign_to_defeat_trum/

The argument Trump supporters have is he isn't part of the "elite" but there are the examples that he has supports in this so called "elite" I don't know how anyone can think Trump is some blue collar revolutionary.

 

[Bjerknes]

That is exactly what the article I linked addresses. It is a FACT that more people in this country identify as Democrat rather than Republican. The polls do not go out of their way to get 33% Democrat, 33% Republican and 33% Independents, they identify a sample of the population that represents the actual one.

Look at the 2008 and 2012 elections:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008#Voter_demographics
39% were Democratic and 32% Republican.
in 2012:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Voter_demographics
Almost the same stats,
38% Democratic and 32% Republican.

These are just facts, you can try to spin them any which way you want.

But this is why it is a problem. Obviously.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231548

Justice system sure is impartial right now, I mean Obama definitely isn't using his influence to disrupt the course of justice in that email scandal. And it sure is funny, just like you said.

Surely she did nuttin' wrong...

The argument Trump supporters have is he isn't part of the "elite" but there are the examples that he has supports in this so called "elite" I don't know how anyone can think Trump is some blue collar revolutionary.

Depends on what you mean by "elite." Clearly more of the media and "elite" prefer Hillary. That's a big issue for some voters who are tired of the Washington "elite."

 

[Ronn]

Justice system sure is impartial right now, I mean Obama definitely isn't using his influence to disrupt the course of justice in that email scandal. And it sure is funny, just like you said.

As I expected your rant about impartiality is all jest.

 

[Seven]

But this is why it is a problem. Obviously.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231548




Surely she did nuttin' wrong...



Depends on what you mean by "elite." Clearly more of the media and "elite" prefer Hillary. That's a big issue for some voters who are tired of the Washington "elite."

Andy, stop.

You know Trump is poison. You know this. Why are you defending him?

 

[Post Ironic]

More paranoid delusional conspiracy crap from Andy. ::

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

This grab em by the pussy scandal is so stupid. What a big deal

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

This might even be good for him

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Trump is turning this into Celebrity Deathmatch.

 

[campionesidd]

This grab em by the pussy scandal is so stupid. What a big deal

It's not such a big thing, imo, not as big as all the idiotic policy related stuff Trump has said. However, considering the fact that Trump has survived sooooo many controversial statements, statements that would have ruined any other politicians career, I'm not complaining that he's finally being held accountable for the things he says.

 

[Ocelot]

Link dump incoming:

Spoiler

Mike Huckabee: Donald Trump is like the guy who gets eaten by the shark in Jaws
The 2016 campaign has jumped the shark. Specifically, the shark from Jaws.

In a conversation with Fox News host Megyn Kelly, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee declared that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump may be rough around the edges, but when the chips are down, he’s the person you can trust to save your life - not unlike Captain Quint in the film Jaws.

“He’s like Captain Quint in the original movie Jaws,” said Huckabee. “He’s vulgar, he’s salty, he might even get drunk... But hold on here: he’s the guy who’s gonna save your butt and save your family. And so, at the end of the day, when he kills the shark, you’re happy about it.”

Huckabee, who has long been a critic of American popular culture, continued with the analogy. “Now, Hillary is the shark,” Huckabee said. “She’s going to eat your boat, she’s gonna have open borders, immigration out the kazoo, and so the choice is, do you vote for Captain Quint, who’s gonna save your family, or do you vote for the shark? That’s the choice you get to make.”

Kelly, clearly a scholar of summer blockbusters, burst Huckabee’s bubble by reminding the former governor that Quint was devoured by the shark.

“Now, governor, I hate to be the one to tell you this,” said Kelly. “Captain Quint got eaten by the shark.”

[video=twitter;785597497737670657]https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/785597497737670657[/video]

[video=twitter;785547209081315328]https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/785547209081315328[/video]

And Trump is going HAM on the GOP

[video=twitter;785828772423561216]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785828772423561216[/video]

[video=twitter;785885793340448769]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785885793340448769[/video]

[video=twitter;785854588654092290]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785854588654092290[/video]

[video=twitter;785846205750337537]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785846205750337537[/video]

My favourite one:

[video=twitter;785842546878578688]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785842546878578688[/video]

I mean wtf

 

[lgorTudor]

Trump is turning this into Celebrity Deathmatch.

If there was an Epic Rap Battle between Trump and Clinton it would be of higher level political discourse than the actual debates.

 

[campionesidd]

True.

 

[ALC]

Who would make a good president in your guys' opinion? Doesn't have to be a politician.

Cuban strikes me like he'd do a pretty good job.

 

[king Ale]

This grab em by the pussy scandal is so stupid. What a big deal

Exactly lol. He's said much worse things as a presidential candidate.

As for one of your previous comments that i wanted to quote and forgot and now can't find, Sanders is indeed a good man, too good for politics at this level, and it's such a shame for Americans that he didn't make it. He's also definitely less "clueless" than you and me.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I don't get this one

What do you mean?

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b-but drumpf is stupid, he said pussy and he can't be trusted with the nuclear codes! only morons vote for drumpf! a vote for drumpf is a vote for nuclear war!

He has said quite a few alarming things regarding nuclear weapons throughout the election.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274862-trump-wont-rule-out-nukes-in-europe

I know you hate Hillary, I don't like her either. But Trump is perhaps the worst Presidential candidate for us in modern history, or at least since we've been alive. I'm genuinely afraid of what will happen if he wins. This is perhaps the worst crop of Presidential candidates we've had.

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That is exactly what the article I linked addresses. It is a FACT that more people in this country identify as Democrat rather than Republican. The polls do not go out of their way to get 33% Democrat, 33% Republican and 33% Independents, they identify a sample of the population that represents the actual one.

Look at the 2008 and 2012 elections:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008#Voter_demographics
39% were Democratic and 32% Republican.
in 2012:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Voter_demographics
Almost the same stats,
38% Democratic and 32% Republican.

These are just facts, you can try to spin them any which way you want.

What state do you live in?

 

[Post Ironic]

Trump is turning this into Celebrity Deathmatch.

It's hard not to love this guy, if only for the entertainment factor. I want to despise him, and I'm often disgusted by him, but this election is by far the most entertaining one I've experienced. Imagine a Trump presidency... brilliant comedic value, at the very least.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Exactly lol. He's said much worse things as a presidential candidate.

As for one of your previous comments that i wanted to quote and forgot and now can't find, Sanders is indeed a good man, too good for politics at this level, and it's such a shame for Americans that he didn't make it. He's also definitely less "clueless" than you and me.

And it's really not that important. Everyone knows by now he's a douchebag. If they really wanted him to lose support, they would corner him until he it's clear he has no idea on how to get more jobs, for one.

Yes, it's a shame. And despite weaknesses in some of his ideas, economically and otherwise, he has the right intentions (in my belief), so I don't think he would make such poor choices given the right counsel. And that's much better than having someone in charge who has the right ideas and experience, but is more self serving.