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Apr 15, 2006
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AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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Yeah, even for them. Because it really is not that big a deal at the end of the day, just own up to it and people will buy it anyway given that it was Melania after all. They are just pathetic. I saw parts of the whole thing, it was like watching some grotesque comedy, absolute cringe.
That's a big thing with these people, stubbornness. No matter how small or stupid the point.
 

swag

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radekas

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Aug 26, 2009
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This whole situation with Trump being anti-immigrant and having an immigrant, bimbo wife is so over the top :lol:. It's even better that his first wife was also an immigrant :lol:.

I guess immigrants are ok when they are hot chicks.
 
Jul 1, 2010
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I like how "illegal immigrants" is a thinly veiled concealment of a hate of immigrants. "Oh it's just the illegal ones we have a problem with."
I disagree, immigration is fine but you want to keep control of your national borders. Without borders, there can be no nation state. Opposing illegal immigration is perfectly rational.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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I disagree, immigration is fine but you want to keep control of your national borders. Without borders, there can be no nation state. Opposing illegal immigration is perfectly rational.
You do realize that the regulations that govern immigration are pretty arbitrary and change with the winds of the political climate?

It's like saying you hate people who cross the street on a red light. As if all of a sudden that's really important.
 
Jul 1, 2010
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You do realize that the regulations that govern immigration are pretty arbitrary and change with the winds of the political climate?

It's like saying you hate people who cross the street on a red light. As if all of a sudden that's really important.
So what? If you cannot control how many people come in your country you have no sovereignty.

No border control=the end of the nation-state, and I don't think that's a good thing at all.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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So what? If you cannot control how many people come in your country you have no sovereignty.

No border control=the end of the nation-state, and I don't think that's a good thing at all.
So the condemnation of someone for being "illegal" because he/she entered this country this month, which is considered illegal, as a result of some clown and his failed political project appealing to nationalism to gain support in an election is comical.

Btw how many borders have you actually crossed?
 
Jul 1, 2010
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So the condemnation of someone for being "illegal" because he/she entered this country this month, which is considered illegal, as a result of some clown and his failed political project appealing to nationalism to gain support in an election is comical.

Btw how many borders have you actually crossed?
Border control and preventing illegal immigration is neccesary. Unpleasant but necessary.

I've crossed quite a few borders. This borderless world that some people advocate seems all nice and everything in theory but in reality it would be utter chaos. The nation-state is paramount and securing your own borders is necessary to preserve it.
 

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