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Ronn

Mes Que Un Club
May 3, 2012
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What does that have to do with... anything? Would you not use the bankruptcy laws to your advantage? If not, you'd be rather stupid, really. Chances are you probably will need to, so you better get on board.
I would, but then I wouldn't go on and on about fairness. If you filed for bankruptcy several times and you're still worth $3B you probably cheated somewhere. It may not be illegal but definitely not fair.
The best part is you of all people are calling me stupid and in demand of bankruptcy. It's amazing how someone who listens to Alex Jones can call anybody stupid. I resisted calling you stupid imbecile troll the same but I have no reason to resist anymore. Now kindly piss off.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I said Middle ground... Yeah, that means tax the 1% at 100%... Yeah, that means raise taxes... :lol:

Perhaps it means there's middle ground between massive tax cuts for the wealthy/a flat tax-rate, and raising taxes on business and the rich and not taxing low-income earners at all.

As in: graduated taxes, of a reasonable nature.

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I do agree with you on slashing spending, especially on defense and security... I'm not a fan of over-isolationist policies, but taking a more subdued role in overseas politics and conflicts seems like a good idea to me.

I also think smaller government, and more streamlined processes could help with keeping tax rates more reasonable, without dramatically cutting social spending... but that's never going to happen.

Even our Canadian healthcare system, which is a pretty good one in some ways, is massively inefficient with tax dollars, and mismanaged terribly. Especially with regard to pharmaceuticals and effective outcomes/re-treatments.
I wouldn't tax low income earners. But I do like a flat tax as that is as "fair" as one can get. They also need to re-write the tax code and reduce it by a thousand (or so) pages.

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I would, but then I wouldn't go on and on about fairness. If you filed for bankruptcy several times and you're still worth $3B you probably cheated somewhere. It may not be illegal but definitely not fair.
The best part is you of all people are calling me stupid and in demand of bankruptcy. It's amazing how someone who listens to Alex Jones can call anybody stupid. I resisted calling you stupid imbecile troll the same but I have no reason to resist anymore. Now kindly piss off.
I don't think Trump was talking about fairness. I was talking about fairness. And no, I haven't filed for bankruptcy. Pay attention.
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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So out all the freaks, Trump was the least pro-Israel out of the lot. He stated he would try to make a deal for peace. The rest just said they'll give weapons to Israel so they can make the peace. That says it all, really.
Yeah...the states will always be Israel's bitch.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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I wouldn't tax low income earners. But I do like a flat tax as that is as "fair" as one can get. They also need to re-write the tax code and reduce it by a thousand (or so) pages.

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I don't think Trump was talking about fairness. I was talking about fairness. And no, I haven't filed for bankruptcy. Pay attention.
Oh god! Read this first:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform
"For those Americans who will still pay the income tax, the tax rates will go from the current seven brackets to four simpler, fairer brackets that eliminate the marriage penalty and the AMT while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II"

See? He talks about fairness too. The whole doctrine of reducing tax on the rich stands on fairness. I don't know you and I don't give a single fuck if you have filed for bankruptcy or not
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Oh god! Read this first:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform
"For those Americans who will still pay the income tax, the tax rates will go from the current seven brackets to four simpler, fairer brackets that eliminate the marriage penalty and the AMT while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II"

See? He talks about fairness too. The whole doctrine of reducing tax on the rich stands on fairness. I don't know you and I don't give a single $#@! if you have filed for bankruptcy or not
Eliminating the marriage penalty? Sounds great to me.

At the end of the day, taxing the rich more will not solve any of the underlying issues we face with respect to income gaps. The government may spend the money on something totally opposite anyway. We need to address the structural issues of the economy that has caused business to be driven out, and instead create an environment to correct it.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
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Just with these guys on stage now. Both Democrats call for a 2-state solution.
Ok. They're for a two state solution that's nice. But they'll still continue to tax their citizens to arm a foreign country.

It's not their problem. It's not their war. It has absolutely nothing to do with them. They should keep Israel of their mouth, the only jews they should give a fuck about are the American jews. Simple as that.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Eliminating the marriage penalty? Sounds great to me.

At the end of the day, taxing the rich more will not solve any of the underlying issues we face with respect to income gaps. The government may spend the money on something totally opposite anyway. We need to address the structural issues of the economy that has caused business to be driven out, and instead create an environment to correct it.
It's a different matter what it solves. When a guy like Trump speaks about fairness he's just pandering. Nice try changing the subject though
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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Ok. They're for a two state solution that's nice. But they'll still continue to tax their citizens to arm a foreign country.

It's not their problem. It's not their war. It has absolutely nothing to do with them. They should keep Israel of their mouth, the only jews they should give a fuck about are the American jews. Simple as that.
It's a step in the right direction. Rand Paul is who you're looking for with that.

American Jews....oh where to begin. American Jews (for the most part) are so fervently and blindly pro-Israel it's disgusting. They vote for who will give the most to Israel. You should see the organization of them too. I remember for the Iran deal, flyers went up around the neighborhood with a list of people to call to bitch about it. I wouldn't be surprised if some consider themselves Israeli before American. They system they have in place to keep this going is flawless, it's genius. That birthright bullshit. It's astounding.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,247
It's a step in the right direction. Rand Paul is who you're looking for with that.

American Jews....oh where to begin. American Jews (for the most part) are so fervently and blindly pro-Israel it's disgusting. They vote for who will give the most to Israel. You should see the organization of them too. I remember for the Iran deal, flyers went up around the neighborhood with a list of people to call to bitch about it. I wouldn't be surprised if some consider themselves Israeli before American. They system they have in place to keep this going is flawless, it's genius. That birthright bullshit. It's astounding.
Lol give them Israeli passports and tell em to fuck off.
It's extremely disturbing when you know your country is funding for weapons and equipment to a foreign country that is NOT interested in your interest.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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I hope these charlatans burn in hell
Hopefully you mean charlatans on both sides of the political coin, my man.

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I'm cringing as I post this :lol:

Well, yeah, you know that Cruz's state of the union addresses would be a 2 hour church meeting. Complete with "Send me a check for 777 dollars and write 1 Corinthians 13 in the memo, and in 2 weeks you will receive the blessings of Jesus Christ" scrolling across the bottom.
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Hopefully you mean charlatans on both sides of the political coin, my man.

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Well, yeah, you know that Cruz's state of the union addresses would be a 2 hour church meeting. Complete with "Send me a check for 777 dollars and write 1 Corinthians 13 in the memo, and in 2 weeks you will receive the blessings of Jesus Christ" scrolling across the bottom.
No i mean these particular charlatans who deal in religion and the sacred for political gain, politics is dirty no matter the ideology, but those who use the sacred for these ends are just a different level of dirty
 

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