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[Fred]

that's a better answer than I expected

I'm sure it was the technology part

 

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[kao_ray]

It's sad but I just don't see a solution for these problems in the US. The political class is made of lobbying representatives, all the focus in the society is about money and not the wellbeing of the people and in the end money rule everything. So if you make an arm reform - the arm industry will lose, if you make a pharmaceutical reform - the drug companies will lose, if you make any other kind of reform that is for the benefit of the common people - someone will lose big money and nobody can let that happen.

I don't wanna imagine where this will end up.

 

[JuveJay]

I feel like Woody Allen's name should be swapped with Janet Jackson's on that cover.

 

[Martin]

I feel like Woody Allen's name should be swapped with Janet Jackson's on that cover.

you're the sensitive type eh

 

[swag]

He earned the name "Woody" as a child care giver.

 

[1251alex]

Citizens United was a scary decision. Super Pacs are scary. I'm voting for Bernie Sanders.

 

[Ocelot]

Ya you're right, it's far too subjective to try and assess which is the greatest nation in the world. But if there was one, then it would be the United States. It's a bold claim, and one that I would have a hard time defending, but here's what I think.

America is a country where people have more of a chance of changing the world than anywhere else. Look at it from a technological perspective, it's the country that gave us IBM and Dell early on, the country that first made it possible for people to own personal computers on a large scale, it gave us Steve Jobs and Apple, Bill Gates and Microsoft, Zuckerberg and Facebook, Twitter, Wikipedia. All those came from the United States.

America is a pioneer in transportation for the general public; the country where cars started being used by the general public, where the first commercial air flight happened.

I could go on and on, but the simple fact is, America is the country that has produced most of the entrepreneurs who have changed the world over the past century. There's no doubt that it's a country in decline, and has been for a while, and IMO that is largely because they are letting go of the principles that made them a great country.

Hmmm, that's actually a pretty good answer

 

[Fred]

Hmmm, that's actually a pretty good answer

Thanks

 

[Twenty---3]

Donald Trump Yes We Can! oh wait......

 

[Bjerknes]

FFS dude, did you read it?

After saying very little really, he ends it with: Growing up in Denmark, I’ve seen this picture before. If America doesn’t want socialism its people must wake up and heed the lessons being played out in counties around the world – like Denmark.. If America doesn’t want socialism it must seek politicians and policies that allow the individual to have more liberty and freedom. If America doesn’t want socialism it must act now. But America must first answer the questions…. Does America Want Socialism?



Such a lazy and dishonest effort.

While it may have been an article without a lot of evidence, I posted it as a response to Ocelot scoffing at my post about socialism in the US. The US isn't and shouldn't be a socialist country, but we already have plenty of it. It's easy to say sure, we need more benefits for the poor while creating a business climate that makes it difficult for folks to compete and get somewhere. But really, the government should be encouraging savings and investment as that creates capital formation to generate business and keep people employed. Instead, they do the opposite and then say that we need more social programs for the poor. So at the end of the day, those same poor people are kept in their place, unable to find anything else other than minimum wage service jobs. The more socialism we get, the larger the gap between the rich and poor. We don't need more socialism.

 

[Hust]

Ya you're right, it's far too subjective to try and assess which is the greatest nation in the world. But if there was one, then it would be the United States. It's a bold claim, and one that I would have a hard time defending, but here's what I think.

America is a country where people have more of a chance of changing the world than anywhere else. Look at it from a technological perspective, it's the country that gave us IBM and Dell early on, the country that first made it possible for people to own personal computers on a large scale, it gave us Steve Jobs and Apple, Bill Gates and Microsoft, Zuckerberg and Facebook, Twitter, Wikipedia. All those came from the United States.

America is a pioneer in transportation for the general public; the country where cars started being used by the general public, where the first commercial air flight happened.

I could go on and on, but the simple fact is, America is the country that has produced most of the entrepreneurs who have changed the world over the past century. There's no doubt that it's a country in decline, and has been for a while, and IMO that is largely because they are letting go of the principles that made them a great country.

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While it may have been an article without a lot of evidence, I posted it as a response to Ocelot scoffing at my post about socialism in the US. The US isn't and shouldn't be a socialist country, but we already have plenty of it. It's easy to say sure, we need more benefits for the poor while creating a business climate that makes it difficult for folks to compete and get somewhere. But really, the government should be encouraging savings and investment as that creates capital formation to generate business and keep people employed. Instead, they do the opposite and then say that we need more social programs for the poor. So at the end of the day, those same poor people are kept in their place, unable to find anything else other than minimum wage service jobs. The more socialism we get, the larger the gap between the rich and poor. We don't need more socialism.

 

[Seven]

that's a better answer than I expected

Really? It's a bunch of modern mumbo jumbo about America' s favorite word entrepreneur. It's the same indoctrination that fuels Andy's posts.

And America might be letting go of some of its principles, but those are the right to privacy, free speech and the right to considered innocent till proven guilty.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Really? It's a bunch of modern mumbo jumbo about America' s favorite word entrepreneur. It's the same indoctrination that fuels Andy's posts.

And America might be letting go of some of its principles, but those are the right to privacy, free speech and the right to considered innocent till proven guilty.

so if those rights are stripped extrajudicially by the government, whats the people's recourse?

 

[Ocelot]

While it may have been an article without a lot of evidence, I posted it as a response to Ocelot scoffing at my post about socialism in the US. The US isn't and shouldn't be a socialist country, but we already have plenty of it. It's easy to say sure, we need more benefits for the poor while creating a business climate that makes it difficult for folks to compete and get somewhere. But really, the government should be encouraging savings and investment as that creates capital formation to generate business and keep people employed. Instead, they do the opposite and then say that we need more social programs for the poor. So at the end of the day, those same poor people are kept in their place, unable to find anything else other than minimum wage service jobs. The more socialism we get, the larger the gap between the rich and poor. We don't need more socialism.

The US is not a socialist state, how can you even think that with knowing the basic definition of socialism? Just for one, virtually no firms are owned by the state. Just because you have a (pathetic excuse of a) welfare state doesn't make it socialist.

And the bolded part shows a marvelous misunderstanding of basic macroeconomics. Virtually all empirical evidence as well as theoretical concepts say the opposite (I'm just assuming that with "socialism, you're referring to a stronger welfare state and higher, and especially more progressive taxes).

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Really? It's a bunch of modern mumbo jumbo about America' s favorite word entrepreneur. It's the same indoctrination that fuels Andy's posts.

And America might be letting go of some of its principles, but those are the right to privacy, free speech and the right to considered innocent till proven guilty.

Agreed. That's what should make people upset.

 

[Bjerknes]

Really? It's a bunch of modern mumbo jumbo about America' s favorite word entrepreneur. It's the same indoctrination that fuels Andy's posts.

And America might be letting go of some of its principles, but those are the right to privacy, free speech and the right to considered innocent till proven guilty.

As I recall, you never understood economics to begin with. But yes, your last sentence is certainly on point.

And the bolded part shows a marvelous misunderstanding of basic macroeconomics. Virtually all empirical evidence as well as theoretical concepts say the opposite (I'm just assuming that with "socialism, you're referring to a stronger welfare state and higher, and especially more progressive taxes).

Empirical evidence? The US is the third largest country in the world. The social programs have been a complete failure to bridge any gaps. You do the math.

As an aside, I have a degree in economics from a major university. I understand the concepts. Many of them are based on assumptions that are not practical in the real world. Once you step into the real world outside of the university doors, things are a little bit different in more ways than one.

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so if those rights are stripped extrajudicially by the government, whats the people's recourse?

Eat cake, according to many people here.

 

[Seven]

so if those rights are stripped extrajudicially by the government, whats the people's recourse?

The US is supposed to be a democracy, no?

America's biggest problem is intellectual laziness of the masses. You have politicians who cry 'socialism' in an attempt to villify others, right wing morons exclaiming 'don't take our guns' and actual presidential candidates who say something should be done about the president's arabness without the general public giving a fuck.

That's where your problems are.

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As I recall, you never understood economics to begin with. But yes, your last sentence is certainly on point.



Empirical evidence? The US is the third largest country in the world. The social programs have been a complete failure to bridge any gaps. You do the math.

As an aside, I have a degree in economics from a major university. I understand the concepts. Many of them are based on assumptions that are not practical in the real world. Once you step into the real world outside of the university doors, things are a little bit different in more ways than one.

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Eat cake, according to many people here.

Your big problem is that you seem to think that economics is some sort of difficult to understand intelligent being. It's not. Economics are just what we make of it.

 

[Bjerknes]

The US is supposed to be a democracy, no?

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Your big problem is that you seem to think that economics is some sort of difficult to understand intelligent being. It's not. Economics are just what we make of it.

No, quite the contrary. It really is a lot of common sense.

 

[Seven]

No, quite the contrary. It really is a lot of common sense.

It is also completely in our own hands. It is what we want it to be. Unfortunately we continue to make poor choices and exclude options that might change the world for the better because we are scared of a system that was abused in Russia decades ago.

Let's takr universal healthcare for example. It will actually help your economy time and time again. So why is this reality being denied? And why do people accept this?

 

[Bjerknes]

It is also completely in our own hands. It is what we want it to be. Unfortunately we continue to make poor choices and exclude options that might change the world for the better because we are scared of a system that was abused in Russia decades ago.

Let's takr universal healthcare for example. It will actually help your economy time and time again. So why is this reality being denied? And why do people accept this?

How will we pay for it? You know, America doesn't have the same demographics as other nations.

Abused in Russia? It will be abused all over the place. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The US is such a big and diverse nation with many internal and external enemies. This place was born on individualism and the freedom to do what you want. The last thing we need at this point is a government to only further its attack on the individual.

 

[Seven]

How will we pay for it? You know, America doesn't have the same demographics as other nations.

Abused in Russia? It will be abused all over the place. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The US is such a big and diverse nation with many internal and external enemies. This place was born on individualism and the freedom to do what you want. The last thing we need at this point is a government to only further its attack on the individual.

10 million is pretty much the same as 100 million in terms of insurance risks though. If anything it should be easier to fund. In terms of demographics the US isn't even that huge. It's not China.

And so many countries have universal healthcare that it honestly makes you guys look medieval. If a goverment doesn't even take care of its people, what does it do?