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[Post Ironic]

It doesnt cause abortions, isnt gay, and it doesnt require a condom.

God approved

Lots of heretical sects tried this out during the Middle Ages... or so the catholics claimed before having them burned at the stake.

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Roe vs wade, regardless of where you stand politically, was unconstitutional

 

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[lgorTudor]

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Banning abortion will probably lead to a rise in the prevalence of sodomy.

sodomy is sexual activity that doesnt serve the purpose of procreation

the goat sex thing comes from islam I believe but it's not prevalent in the Christian Society

 

[GordoDeCentral]

So Ronaldo is muslim?

 

[ALC]

sodomy is sexually activity that doesnt serve the purpose of procreation

the goat sex thing comes from islam I believe but it's not prevalent in the Christian Society

You’re right, Christians prefer donkeys and little boys

 

[lgorTudor]

So Ronaldo is muslim?

He is a sodomite because he had sex with a lady without asking her father for her hand like a honorable man should

You’re right, Christians prefer donkeys and little boys

only the catholics due to celibacy. Protestants and orthodoxies have families like normal people

 

[icemaη]

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Roe vs wade, regardless of where you stand politically, was unconstitutional

Why?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Why?

Because the ruling has no constitutional basis, it is not a philosophical discussion about what ought to be, rather is this right covered in the constitution? And it's not, the court simply has no right to outlaw or legalize abortion.

 

[icemaη]

Because the ruling has no constitutional basis, it is not a philosophical discussion about what ought to be, rather is this right covered in the constitution? And it's not, the court simply has no right to outlaw or legalize abortion.

That'd make any and all abortion laws illegal? Or the states have rights to enact what they seem fit and only a federal law is unconstitutional?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

That'd make any and all abortion laws illegal? Or the states have rights to enact what they seem fit and only a federal law is unconstitutional?

It's not a matter for the courts, so state level legislation seems more sound

 

[Enron]

Why you gotta bring the thread iq down with your summons


Roe vs wade, regardless of where you stand politically, was unconstitutional

That'd make any and all abortion laws illegal? Or the states have rights to enact what they seem fit and only a federal law is unconstitutional?

Only if the SCOTUS ruled that abortion was illegal, immoral, etc. But that would be equally unconstitutional. They would most likely rule that the fundamentals of Roe were no longer protected under the 14th amendment.

At that point states would have to decide how they want to address the issue. Many states already have abortion laws, mostly dealing with late term abortion.

Alabama and Georgia will have a tough time in the court system though. Their laws are too rigid, too easy too attack even without invoking Roe v Wade.

 

[Seven]

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Roe vs wade, regardless of where you stand politically, was unconstitutional

That's not strictly true, because they base it on the right to privacy.

I think the real discussion is how broad do you allow justices to interpret certain texts. In the US I'd say most courts are quite conservative in this regard. In Europe, and especially within EU law, there is much more judicial activism.

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[GordoDeCentral]

That's not strictly true, because they base it on the right to privacy.

I think the real discussion is how broad do you allow justices to interpret certain texts. In the US I'd say most courts are quite conservative in this regard. In Europe, and especially within EU law, there is much more judicial activism.

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Where is the right to privacy in the constitution?

 

[Seven]

Where is the right to privacy in the constitution?

Fourteenth amendment.

I'm not a US constitutional lawyer obviously though.

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[AndreaCristiano]

Fourth amendment.

I'm not a US constitutional lawyer obviously though.

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How does the 4th amendment apply to abortion?

 

[Enron]

How does the 4th amendment apply to abortion?

It’s the Due Process clause of the 14th Amendment specifically. Which interestingly enough is applied to several landmark decisions. I think even Brown draws from it.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

It’s the Due Process clause of the 14th Amendment specifically. Which interestingly enough is applied to several landmark decisions. I think even Brown draws from it.

Well ok in that situation I could see the way it could apply but I still think at best it's a reinterpretation of how to apply it to said laws especially roe v Wade

 

[Enron]

Well ok in that situation I could see the way it could apply but I still think at best it's a reinterpretation of how to apply it to said laws especially roe v Wade

It’s a pretty controversial amendment for many reasons. But it’s also pretty important for many reasons as well.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

It’s a pretty controversial amendment for many reasons. But it’s also pretty important for many reasons as well.

Agreed. I think it's the ability to interpret it in so many ways which makes it controversial. The fact that it keeps the gestapo state at Bay is why it's important

 

[Seven]

How does the 4th amendment apply to abortion?

14th, typo.

But you could read that in Roe v Wade.

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[GordoDeCentral]

Fourteenth amendment.

I'm not a US constitutional lawyer obviously though.

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Neither am i, but it's pretty clear there is no such thing as right to privacy, 14th amendments grants very clear and spelled out rights none of which spelled as general as right to privacy.