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At what point do the people who are at the forefront of the "Stop Trump" campaign take a step back and realize that they will end up with Ted Cruz instead? 
A candidate who is just as unelectable as Trump.
Meanwhile, the one Republican candidate who A) Has experience in Congress B) Has experience in an executive position C) Has Foreign Policy experience, and D) is far more electable, just keeps sliding further and further back.
It's heartbreaking and amusing at the same time to see my political party stumble over themselves. You would swear that they are on Clinton's payroll to ensure that she gets into the White House.
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Fuck yo Couch.
Oh, and when your campaign mantra is basically "Free Everything", of course the demographic in this country is going to flock to him.
A candidate who is just as unelectable as Trump.
Meanwhile, the one Republican candidate who A) Has experience in Congress B) Has experience in an executive position C) Has Foreign Policy experience, and D) is far more electable, just keeps sliding further and further back.
It's heartbreaking and amusing at the same time to see my political party stumble over themselves. You would swear that they are on Clinton's payroll to ensure that she gets into the White House.
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Fuck yo Couch.
Oh, and when your campaign mantra is basically "Free Everything", of course the demographic in this country is going to flock to him.
At what point do the people who are at the forefront of the "Stop Trump" campaign take a step back and realize that they will end up with Ted Cruz instead?
A candidate who is just as unelectable as Trump.
Meanwhile, the one Republican candidate who A) Has experience in Congress B) Has experience in an executive position C) Has Foreign Policy experience, and D) is far more electable, just keeps sliding further and further back.
It's heartbreaking and amusing at the same time to see my political party stumble over themselves. You would swear that they are on Clinton's payroll to ensure that she gets into the White House.
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Fuck yo Couch.
Oh, and when your campaign mantra is basically "Free Everything", of course the demographic in this country is going to flock to him.
A candidate who is just as unelectable as Trump.
Meanwhile, the one Republican candidate who A) Has experience in Congress B) Has experience in an executive position C) Has Foreign Policy experience, and D) is far more electable, just keeps sliding further and further back.
It's heartbreaking and amusing at the same time to see my political party stumble over themselves. You would swear that they are on Clinton's payroll to ensure that she gets into the White House.
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Fuck yo Couch.
Oh, and when your campaign mantra is basically "Free Everything", of course the demographic in this country is going to flock to him.
Personally, as much as I like Rand Paul and as much as I liked Ben Carson early on, at the end of the day, I do prefer my candidates to have some semblance of executive experience.
I can't speak for everyone in the Republican party, but you know that I like Rand Paul, but I guess that he is just too "out there" for the establishment. Which really makes the whole plan of burying Kasich all the more perplexing, considering that he has already run the political gauntlet, and is more "establishment" than either Trump or Cruz.
What is doing him in, is the notion that he would be willing to cross party lines to get things done. Oh no, we can't have that, now can we. It's almost as laughable as the Republicans refusing not only to vote on the Supreme Court Nominee, they won't even interview him, despite his conservative leanings.
As if Clinton, if she gets into office, isn't going to nominate someone so far to the left that they need a GPS to find the center?
I can't speak for everyone in the Republican party, but you know that I like Rand Paul, but I guess that he is just too "out there" for the establishment. Which really makes the whole plan of burying Kasich all the more perplexing, considering that he has already run the political gauntlet, and is more "establishment" than either Trump or Cruz.
What is doing him in, is the notion that he would be willing to cross party lines to get things done. Oh no, we can't have that, now can we. It's almost as laughable as the Republicans refusing not only to vote on the Supreme Court Nominee, they won't even interview him, despite his conservative leanings.
As if Clinton, if she gets into office, isn't going to nominate someone so far to the left that they need a GPS to find the center?
Well you got no one to blame but the primary voters, simple as that.
The party doesn't like Cruz a bit, that's why they've waited so long to consilidate around him in the first place even though he was the only one actually challening Trump in the primaries. Him as a nominee is just not half as suicidal as Trump, was it between Cruz and anyone but Trump they'd support whoever that guy was.
The party doesn't like Cruz a bit, that's why they've waited so long to consilidate around him in the first place even though he was the only one actually challening Trump in the primaries. Him as a nominee is just not half as suicidal as Trump, was it between Cruz and anyone but Trump they'd support whoever that guy was.
I don't blame the primary voters, to tell you the truth. I blame the party. In my opinion, they were looking at Trump throwing his hat in the ring as a way to generate excitement and bring out voters for the party, which he did.
However, they did not, for one second, think that it would be sustainable, and that eventually he would be a flash in the pan, which he obviously has not been. That is on the GOP, not the people. I would never blame them, or as some in the establishment have been wont to do lately, belittle them for voting for their candidate.
So, the GOP got what they wanted in generating excitement, and got what they deserved, for not taking Trump seriously. They did not, and in a way, still do not, have their finger on the pulse of their constituents.
And, unfortunately, it will be people like me, who saw this coming a mile away, that will end up suffering for it.
However, they did not, for one second, think that it would be sustainable, and that eventually he would be a flash in the pan, which he obviously has not been. That is on the GOP, not the people. I would never blame them, or as some in the establishment have been wont to do lately, belittle them for voting for their candidate.
So, the GOP got what they wanted in generating excitement, and got what they deserved, for not taking Trump seriously. They did not, and in a way, still do not, have their finger on the pulse of their constituents.
And, unfortunately, it will be people like me, who saw this coming a mile away, that will end up suffering for it.
Personally, as much as I like Rand Paul and as much as I liked Ben Carson early on, at the end of the day, I do prefer my candidates to have some semblance of executive experience.
I can't speak for everyone in the Republican party, but you know that I like Rand Paul, but I guess that he is just too "out there" for the establishment. Which really makes the whole plan of burying Kasich all the more perplexing, considering that he has already run the political gauntlet, and is more "establishment" than either Trump or Cruz.
What is doing him in, is the notion that he would be willing to cross party lines to get things done. Oh no, we can't have that, now can we. It's almost as laughable as the Republicans refusing not only to vote on the Supreme Court Nominee, they won't even interview him, despite his conservative leanings.
As if Clinton, if she gets into office, isn't going to nominate someone so far to the left that they need a GPS to find the center?
I can't speak for everyone in the Republican party, but you know that I like Rand Paul, but I guess that he is just too "out there" for the establishment. Which really makes the whole plan of burying Kasich all the more perplexing, considering that he has already run the political gauntlet, and is more "establishment" than either Trump or Cruz.
What is doing him in, is the notion that he would be willing to cross party lines to get things done. Oh no, we can't have that, now can we. It's almost as laughable as the Republicans refusing not only to vote on the Supreme Court Nominee, they won't even interview him, despite his conservative leanings.
As if Clinton, if she gets into office, isn't going to nominate someone so far to the left that they need a GPS to find the center?
He may not be what we all want in regards to foreign policy, but look at the alternatives.
Clinton- Benghazi. Enough Said.
Trump- Build a wall and make Mexico pay for it
Cruz- Carpet Bombing, which is illegal.
Clinton- Benghazi. Enough Said.
Trump- Build a wall and make Mexico pay for it
Cruz- Carpet Bombing, which is illegal.
But the problem with Trump is that no one really knows what his policies are.
Aside from getting rid of Common Core, which every GOP candidate wants anyway, and building the wall, do we even really know what his plans are? I think that is as scary as anything else with him, not including the misogynistic and bigoted rhetoric that have all but eliminated any hope of him getting the women and latino votes.
We are almost at the home stretch here, and aside from him constantly saying "We will make great deals", no one has any idea what he has planned.
And look at it this way in regards to these "deals" he talks about.
You are China. You are owed trillions from the US. Why the hell would you make any sort of deal that reduces your leverage?
Aside from getting rid of Common Core, which every GOP candidate wants anyway, and building the wall, do we even really know what his plans are? I think that is as scary as anything else with him, not including the misogynistic and bigoted rhetoric that have all but eliminated any hope of him getting the women and latino votes.
We are almost at the home stretch here, and aside from him constantly saying "We will make great deals", no one has any idea what he has planned.
And look at it this way in regards to these "deals" he talks about.
You are China. You are owed trillions from the US. Why the hell would you make any sort of deal that reduces your leverage?
I agree that there hasn’t been much substance in his campaign, although he has touched on his tax plan and more macro concepts of kick-starting the economy. I don’t agree with some of them. I also think it’s hypocritical to point towards China when the Fed basically runs the economy from top down in the US, also playing games with currency and interest rate manipulation. Trump is also pathetic when it comes to the police state. Kasich isn’t any better in most of those areas.
Depends on what you mean by crazy. Hillary is a full-fledged sociopath, sort of similar to Ted Cruz. Both them will do anything to get elected.
Depends on what you mean by crazy. Hillary is a full-fledged sociopath, sort of similar to Ted Cruz. Both them will do anything to get elected.
But when I say "China", that is who, among other nations, that he is referring to when he talks about making these "Great Business Deals". What I'm saying is that if you are China, and you have that kind of leverage, what is your motivation to reduce it? To reduce it, chances are that Trump will have to acquiesce to certain conditions.
Trump's biggest problem right now is time. Not the time between now and the convention, but the time between these primaries. Early on, things were happening in what could be considered a breakneck pace, so there was little time from primary to primary to focus on his policies, or lack thereof. Give the people a couple of weeks to look at the bigger picture and you have what happened in Wisconsin, where he was earlier predicted to win in a state that was described as "custom made for Donald Trump", to getting beaten badly
Trump's biggest problem right now is time. Not the time between now and the convention, but the time between these primaries. Early on, things were happening in what could be considered a breakneck pace, so there was little time from primary to primary to focus on his policies, or lack thereof. Give the people a couple of weeks to look at the bigger picture and you have what happened in Wisconsin, where he was earlier predicted to win in a state that was described as "custom made for Donald Trump", to getting beaten badly
Well it's really sad that GOP primary voter turnout is at the highest rate ever, but majority of the votes are going to likes of Trump and Cruz. I for sure won't call a big chunk of the population crazy, but if I want to guess I'd say GOP primary voters are voting based on 1- the hatred of establishment and 2- hatred towards Obama.
I can kind of understand the first one especially for Trump supporters, but I'm unable to understand the hate Obama gets.
I can kind of understand the first one especially for Trump supporters, but I'm unable to understand the hate Obama gets.
What? I mean I can actually get the argument that Trump might not be quite as scary as it seems in terms of domestic policies, but foreign policies? This is the guy that thinks it'd be a good idea that a lot of countries get nuclear weapons - including Saudi Arabia, and who is an open proponent of torture in an extent not seen in a first world nation since...well I can't think of any example really.
Not to mention how extremely unpredictable, volatile and narcistic he is, and that he seems to have literally no idea of the concept of sensitivity or tact. He'd be a complete disaster in terms of foreign relations, and dangerous to global stability as a whole.
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Well the party also pushed the exact same issues and rethoric that Trump now so effectively utilizes for the past decade (at least), gradually getting worse every election cycle. It's not as if they're innocent, but if you just look at this election in isolation, they've steered away from Trump very early on and are now openly campaigning against their own candidate - something I don't think there's even a precedent for.
Not to mention how extremely unpredictable, volatile and narcistic he is, and that he seems to have literally no idea of the concept of sensitivity or tact. He'd be a complete disaster in terms of foreign relations, and dangerous to global stability as a whole.
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Well the party also pushed the exact same issues and rethoric that Trump now so effectively utilizes for the past decade (at least), gradually getting worse every election cycle. It's not as if they're innocent, but if you just look at this election in isolation, they've steered away from Trump very early on and are now openly campaigning against their own candidate - something I don't think there's even a precedent for.
I understand all that, but Trump is not beating the war drums for Iran like other Republicans have been in the past. I find that the greatest threat of all. It’s hard to know what exactly would happen when in office, but hopefully he at least has advisors at his disposal to steer him away from a lot of this nonsense.