Mumbai Shootings (24 Viewers)

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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Pipe dream I'm afraid. Never going to happen, just like in Palestine.
As, I should say, is your plan to "get more evidence". There will never be evidence, just like there's still no evidence about JFK in 63. What it takes to actually get the truth is often a regime change, ancient Soviet documents were declassified after the union broke down. Why? Because there's no one left in high places who could be hurt by the discoveries.

That's what makes people's strong convictions about these events, and their violent outrages, so academic. Vinman is ready to bury a guy who says 9/11 was staged. And yet he doesn't really have a clue, none of us do. The truth will not come out for a long time yet, and by the time it does we will all have more important things at stake and the past will be inconsequential.
 

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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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As, I should say, is your plan to "get more evidence". There will never be evidence, just like there's still no evidence about JFK in 63. What it takes to actually get the truth is often a regime change, ancient Soviet documents were declassified after the union broke down. Why? Because there's no one left in high places who could be hurt by the discoveries.

That's what makes people's strong convictions about these events, and their violent outrages, so academic. Vinman is ready to bury a guy who says 9/11 was staged. And yet he doesn't really have a clue, none of us do. The truth will not come out for a long time yet, and by the time it does we will all have more important things at stake and the past will be inconsequential.
I agree, but history has proven these conflicts never end unless somebody is completely obliterated.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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The fact that the terrorists were wearing those colored armbands still doesn't make any sense. If they were truly Hindu, and wanted to stage the attacks, why give it away so easily like that? And if the terrorists were Muslim, why was it being reported they were buying alcohol at a local store? Nothing makes sense here.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Could these attacks be a distraction away from this possibility?



'Israel plans for solo attack on Iran’
Press TV
Thursday, December 4, 2008

The Israeli Army is preparing plans for a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities without any assistance from the US, an Israeli daily claims.

“While its preference is to coordinate with the US, defense officials have said Israel is preparing a wide range of options for such an operation,” The Jerusalem Post claimed on Thursday.

“It is always better to coordinate, but we are also preparing options that do not include coordination,” the daily quoted an unnamed “top official” as saying last week.

The daily added Israeli officials said although it is difficult to launch an air raid against Iran without receiving help from the US Air Force which controls Iraq’s air space, such an operation is not impossible.

The report came after news stories claiming that US President George W. Bush had refused to give the green light to Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert for a military attack on Iran.

Iran has warned that it would deal “a crushing response” to Israel if Tel Aviv launched an air raid against the country.

Israel and its allies have been accusing Iran of developing nuclear weapons. Iran, however, says its nuclear activities are solely aimed at peaceful purposes.

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Prepare for a regional war at the minimum.
 
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If an Israeli attack on Iran is to happen, then most likely it will be now before Obama takes control, still I think such an attack is not an option for the Israelis right now. First they must make a deal with the Syrians.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Unfortunately this is looking more and more like a false flag terror event, orchestrated by the CIA and... you guessed it... Israel's Mossad.

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Arrest Provides More Evidence India, Israel, and the U.S. Behind Mumbai Attacks

Kurt Nimmo
Prison Planet.com
Sunday, December 7, 2008

It is becoming increasingly a hard sell to pin the blame for the Mumbai attacks on Pakistan and thus set the stage for an attack on Pakistan after Barack Obama enters the White House in a few weeks. It now appears Indian intelligence played a large part in the terrorist attacks. On Saturday, the Associated Press reported that a “counterinsurgency police officer who may have been on an undercover mission” was arrested for illegally buying mobile phone cards used by the gunmen.

Mukhtar Ahmed is an Indian police operative who provided cell phone SIM cards to Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Pakistan terrorist group blamed for the Mumbai attacks.

The counterinsurgency operative, Mukhtar Ahmed, worked for the police in Indian Kashmir. “The implications of Ahmed’s involvement — that Indian agents may have been in touch with the militants and perhaps supplied the SIM cards used in the attacks — added to the growing list of questions over India’s ill-trained security forces, which are widely blamed for not thwarting the attacks,” reports the Associated Press.

In other words, Indian intelligence had penetrated Lashkar-e-Taiba and were running a false flag operation through the terrorist group, putatively connected to Pakistan’s ISI.

Indian police in the Kashmir city of Srinagar told Calcutta police that Ahmed is “our man and it’s now up to them how to facilitate his release,” said one senior officer speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the information. Other police officials in Kashmir supported his account, reports the Associated Press.

Indian intelligence staging false flag terror attacks and blaming them on Muslims is nothing new. On November 23, Andrew Buncombe, writing for the Independent, reported: “India is in something of a state of shock after learning from official sources that its first Hindu terror cell may have carried out a series of deadly bombings that were initially blamed on militant Muslims.” In addition to bombing attacks in the Muslim town of Malegaon in the western state of Maharashtra in September, the Hindu terror cells are allegedly responsible for last year’s bombing of a cross-border train en route to Pakistan, which killed 68 people, according to Buncombe.

It should be noted that the head of the Maharastrian Anti-Terrorist Squad making the allegations about Hindu false flag terrorism, Hemant Karkare, was assassinated as he led his team into the Hotel Taj Kahal during the Mumbai attacks. “Killed in the line of duty, Hemant Karare was targeted as the man who was an immense problem for the BJP [the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party] because his forthright investigation revealed Hindutva terrorism and he was not about to stop. Clearly this invalidated the BJP campaign rhetoric against Muslim terrorism, but the BJP will still use the emotional fervor of Hindutva to win against the Congress party,” writes Allen Heart for OpEdNews.

An exposé carried in a national daily published in the Indian state of Madhya Pradesh alleges that Indian intelligence supported extremist Hindutvadis in their murderous Malegaon campaign with the cooperation of Israel’s Mossad. “The newspaper writes that relations between Mossad and CIA are world known,” notes the Pak Alert Press blog. “The national daily… has exposed that the officials of the national intelligence agencies have categorically stated that American secret service agency, CIA together with Israel’s secret organization Mossad, has carried out several secret operation all over Asia,” Pak Alert Press reports, translating from the original Urdu.

Indian intelligence, however, is no minor player and its foreign policy objectives currently parallel those of the CIA and Mossad in regard to covert destabilization in South Asia and elsewhere. “RAW [the Research and Analysis Wing, the Indian version of the CIA] , ever since its creation, has always been a vital, though unobtrusive, actor in Indian policy-making apparatus,” writes Isha Khan.
Since its creation in 1968, RAW has been “given a virtual carte blanche to conduct destabilization operations in neighboring countries inimical to India to seriously undertook restructuring of its organization accordingly. RAW was given a list of seven countries (Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Sikkim, Bhutan, Pakistan and Maldives) whom India considered its principal regional protagonists. It very soon systematically and brilliantly crafted covert operations in all these countries to coerce, destabilize and subvert them in consonance with the foreign policy objectives of the Indian Government.”

Specifically, RAW “considers Sindh as Pakistan’s soft under-belly. It has, therefore, made it the prime target for sabotage and subversion. RAW has enrolled and extensive network of agents and anti-government elements, and is convinced that with a little push restless Sindh will revolt. Taking fullest advantage of the agitation in Sindh in 1983 and the ethnic riots, which have continued till today, RAW has deeply penetrated and cultivated dissidents and secessionists, thereby creating hard-liners unlikely to allow peace to return to Sindh.” Sindh includes Urdu-speaking Muslim refugees who migrated to Pakistan from India upon independence.

It now appears obvious that India’s RAW with the help of the CIA and Israel’s Mossad created the current situation and have set-up Pakistan’s ISI to take the blame for the Mumbai attacks. Senator McCain, flanked by senators Joe Lieberman and Lindsay Graham, told Ejaz Haider, a senior editor with the Daily Times group, that it could be a “matter of days” before India carried out surgical air strikes if Pakistan did not act on the evidence provided to it on elements linked to the attacks, according to the Daily Star. “If the terrorists succeed in confounding relations between these two great countries, they will achieve their aim. We cannot let that happen,” McCain declared.

A conflict between the two nuclear armed nations may very well be the “international crisis, a generated crisis” Joe Biden mentioned in October that will “test” president Barack Obama.

In August, 2007, Obama said “the United States must be willing to strike al Qaeda targets inside Pakistan,” a comment that has led more than a few commentators to conclude that the U.S. will attack Pakistan in the coming months. It now appears the false flag Mumbai attacks, described as India’s “9/11,” will serve as a pretext to get the ball rolling on “surgical strikes” against Pakistan.
 

Vinman

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As, I should say, is your plan to "get more evidence". There will never be evidence, just like there's still no evidence about JFK in 63. What it takes to actually get the truth is often a regime change, ancient Soviet documents were declassified after the union broke down. Why? Because there's no one left in high places who could be hurt by the discoveries.

That's what makes people's strong convictions about these events, and their violent outrages, so academic. Vinman is ready to bury a guy who says 9/11 was staged. And yet he doesn't really have a clue, none of us do. The truth will not come out for a long time yet, and by the time it does we will all have more important things at stake and the past will be inconsequential.
now thats where you're wrong, Martin......its pretty obvious what happened back on Sept 11 2001 (and if its not to you or anyone else here, rest assured, I've had enough training in terrorism and the facts behind the attack to confirm that it was truly Al Queda, and not George Bush, that attacked my country on 9/11)

The whole conspiracy theory about government involvement is a sad, sad joke that disrespects the deceased law enforcement, firefighters, and innocent victims of that day
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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This whole attack is either cover for another event, such as a possible Iran attack or the bankers' financial meltdown orchestration, or the leading intelligence agencies trying to manufacture World War III. It really does reek of Israeli involvement and I just cannot help but think a potential war in the region would provide the IDF with justification to start bombing Iran, with fighting spilling over several borders.

Or, perhaps the military industrial complex wants another war to bail us out of new great depression, much like WWII provided us with a means to rejuvenate our economy.

Interesting stuff this.
 

Bjerknes

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now thats where you're wrong, Martin......its pretty obvious what happened back on Sept 11 2001 (and if its not to you or anyone else here, rest assured, I've had enough training in terrorism and the facts behind the attack to confirm that it was truly Al Queda, and not George Bush, that attacked my country on 9/11)

The whole conspiracy theory about government involvement is a sad, sad joke that disrespects the deceased law enforcement, firefighters, and innocent victims of that day
No, no, no. Not investigating what actually occurred is disrespecting the deceased.
 
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    now thats where you're wrong, Martin......its pretty obvious what happened back on Sept 11 2001 (and if its not to you or anyone else here, rest assured, I've had enough training in terrorism and the facts behind the attack to confirm that it was truly Al Queda, and not George Bush, that attacked my country on 9/11)

    The whole conspiracy theory about government involvement is a sad, sad joke that disrespects the deceased law enforcement, firefighters, and innocent victims of that day
    i agree with that vinny.

    you guys watch too many movies and surf the net wayy too much to actually believe that 9/11 was staged by the U.S. government. its really sickening to hear/read that. by spewing out conspiracy theories you are insulting those who were victims of the attacks and their loved ones who were left to suffer.
     

    Ahmed

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    look, India does not have the balls to conduct open war with Pakistan unless they are fully backed by the US...India has a lot more to lose than us, and the nuclear deterrent is a very big hindrance...if the US becomes a lot more pro-active from the Afghan border, only then will India think about crossing into Pakistani airspace
     

    Ahmed

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    i agree with that vinny.

    you guys watch too many movies and surf the net wayy too much to actually believe that 9/11 was staged by the U.S. government. its really sickening to hear/read that. by spewing out conspiracy theories you are insulting those who were victims of the attacks and their loved ones who were left to suffer.
    there is precedent...JFK anyone?
     

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