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Martin said:
If this were your first post in this thread my response would be different. Why don't we turn back the clock and see what you said:



Do you honestly protest being labeled as "cattle" for posting this? You actually said "cmon everyone, let's be cattle". Whether in jest or not.

And this last post of yours is the first one to actually describe the product we're talking about rather than the company that made it. So in other words all your arguments failed, because the only thing I will accept is an argument about the product. Which is exactly as it should be. And that it something Apple has successfully subverted with their marketing machine, something you demonstrated yourself. That is hurting the consumer, not helping.
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irregardless of what my 1st or last post was my point is the same. he asked whats a good mp3 player to get and i gave my suggestion. ppl had already discounted the ipod and i accordingly brought up the point that they are on top in the mp3 player market for a reason. how can that be misconstrued? how can that be a failed argument?

you may dislike the ipod for whatever reasons but its no doubt one of the best selling mp3 players out there. just because apple makes it and does control the market doesn't mean they did it solely through marketing. i said get an ipod because apple does make a good product, i personally have one and have never been disappointed. we are not living in the 1980's, where you can market a shitty product and watch it become a top seller.

it is a good product and it is made by a good company. just because it doesn't have certain specs that doesn't make it a bad product nor does it make apple an inferior company.
 
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swag said:
I find them pretty comfy. My case even came with five different pairs of earplug attachments to try them out for different comfort levels. I use the default ones.

There are probably more comfortable out there, like some of the ridiculously expensive Shure earphones. But they work for me. And they pretty much seal everything out. Talk about making things like noise cancellation extra redundant -- you can put these babies in without any sound playing and it practically blocks out the world.

My one complaint about these cheaper numbers is some of the bass fidelity -- that's the sort of thing you get when you go for the earbuds that cost 3x as much + ...

They do stick out there, but hey -- I don't really care.
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Actually Westone's go around as the most comfy of the lot and it's true. Pair 'em up with some Shure olives, aka black foams, and you get a perfect seal + comfort. You should really try those foams, I'm pretty sure they fit on your UE's, and they're not very expensive(check eBay, around 10$, 5 pairs).

That's the thing I love about in-ear phones, noise isolation. I can practically walk next to a train and still enjoy my music as if I were in my living room. That and it makes you look FBI. :cool: (not yours though, they stick out too much :p )
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While I like software like iPhoto a lot, iTunes is a horribly engineered piece of proprietary bloatware.

And why, oh why, did its developers feel we were so stupid that we could not mentally comprehend what folders of a file system meant?
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I wouldn't know, after numerous headaches with their Quick Time software I pretty much avoid all Apple software.
 
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Dru said:
irregardless of what my 1st or last post was my point is the same. he asked whats a good mp3 player to get and i gave my suggestion. ppl had already discounted the ipod and i accordingly brought up the point that they are on top in the mp3 player market for a reason. how can that be misconstrued? how can that be a failed argument?

you may dislike the ipod for whatever reasons but its no doubt one of the best selling mp3 players out there. just because apple makes it and does control the market doesn't mean they did it solely through marketing. i said get an ipod because apple does make a good product, i personally have one and have never been disappointed. we are not living in the 1980's, where you can market a shitty product and watch it become a top seller.

it is a good product and it is made by a good company. just because it doesn't have certain specs that doesn't make it a bad product nor does it make apple an inferior company.
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Presumably, since the ipod is #1 on the market, he had already heard of them, yes? And you say you "gave your suggestion", by saying "just get an ipod". Without giving any reason whatsoever why the ipod is a good choice. Furthermore it fails to meet the ONE requirement he explicitly stated:

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I have decided that i want to get me a decent mp3 player. Is there a hard drive based one that will allow you to just copy+paste the music? rather than go through the software and have to "sync"
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So no, the ipod isn't a good choice at all for that, in fact it's disqualified. Hence noone mentioned it.

I imagine if bes had said "can you recommend an mp3 player that only allows you to use it through one specific program" people would be jumping out of windows to say IPOD. But he didn't.
 
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Martin said:
vlat, are your buds the kind that stay in your ears? So you don't have to ducktape them when running/biking?
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Yep. You can do pretty much everything in them. All in in-ear models make a good seal and won't come out unless you grab them with your finger and pull them out. They're a godsend for me seriously, I have some freakish ears. I swear normal headphones fall out just by turning my head. Incredibly irritating.
 
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vlatko said:
Yep. You can do pretty much everything in them. All in in-ear models make a good seal and won't come out unless you grab them with your finger and pull them out. They're a godsend for me seriously, I have some freakish ears. I swear normal headphones fall out just by turning my head. Incredibly irritating.
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They look plastic. What do they feel like? Rubber on the inside?
 
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Martin said:
Presumably, since the ipod is #1 on the market, he had already heard of them, yes? And you say you "gave your suggestion", by saying "just get an ipod". Without giving any reason whatsoever why the ipod is a good choice. Furthermore it fails to meet the ONE requirement he explicitly stated:



So no, the ipod isn't a good choice at all for that, in fact it's disqualified. Hence noone mentioned it.

I imagine if bes had said "can you recommend an mp3 player that only allows you to use it through one specific program" people would be jumping out of windows to say IPOD. But he didn't.
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actually i thought anapod allows you to drag and drop to your ipod and doesn't require you to install itunes whatsoever
 
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Martin said:
They look plastic. What do they feel like? Rubber on the inside?
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They're plastic of course, all models are. The thing is in the plugs or extensions, they're the ones that go in your ear-canal. They fill your ear-canal and isolate outside noise. They can be silicone(or rubber) or foam. Silicone ones feel weird IMO but the foam ones are like a pillow nesting in your ear, incredibly soft and comfy.
 
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Dru said:
actually i thought anapod allows you to drag and drop to your ipod and doesn't require you to install itunes whatsoever
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That Apple has to have a third party bridge this mess is, IMO, actually kind of embarrassing.

It's akin to Gurgaon, India and all the secondary markets for power and water created by the government's inability to deliver consistently useful utilities.
 
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Martin said:
Where did you get yours? Internet or local dealer?
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Local dealer, fat chance here..

From Jaben's store. A great little store in Singapur run by a guy named Wilson, it's like a mecca for earphone enthusiasts. They're site is pretty poor and not regulary updated but once you find something you need, just email them and you'll get a price which will probably be lower than retail. I got mine for 109$, shipping included. For tons of info on the subject checkout headfi.org

Though I recommend you to find a local store and try out different models, you should be able to find them in Utrecht(I think). Ears are different and though they're always various sizes of plugs, it's better to try them on first.
 
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vlatko said:
Though I recommend you to find a local store and try out different models, you should be able to find them in Utrecht(I think). Ears are different and though they're always various sizes of plugs, it's better to try them on first.
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Closest one I found is in France :faq1: And they were kind enough to include heinous shipping (from the US to France presumably) in the price which is listed at 134 yuros. :lazy:

As for trying I've never been to a store where you can try earbuds. Some won't even let you try headphones.

Btw thanks for getting me hooked on this :frown: :weee:
 
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Martin said:
Closest one I found is in France :faq1: And they were kind enough to include heinous shipping (from the US to France presumably) in the price which is listed at 134 yuros. :lazy:

As for trying I've never been to a store where you can try earbuds. Some won't even let you try headphones.

Btw thanks for getting me hooked on this :frown: :weee:
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There's always eBay or www.advancedmp3players.co.uk (great site, I got my iAudio from there).

These earphones are THE SHIT, if you can afforfd them, go for them, you won't miss. Swedish made and they're highly praised by just about anyone. Price is around 200$ though.

It's not hard to get hooked, I took me 3 months before deciding on which ones to get. God knows what would have happened if I had a bigger budget.
 
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    Dru said:
    actually i thought anapod allows you to drag and drop to your ipod and doesn't require you to install itunes whatsoever
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    like martin inferred, i dont have windows

    the way i see it the iAudio is better than the iPod in battery life, price, size (i havent read a bad review about it), sound quality, coolness factor since everyone has an ipod now, and compatability

    the only thing the ipod has is availability
     
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    Lawnchair Bes said:
    yes i am hooked on the earphones too now. but i'll wait to try my old earphones first then see what happens
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    Which headphones are those?
    Lawnchair Bes said:
    like martin inferred, i dont have windows

    the way i see it the iAudio is better than the iPod in battery life, price, size (i havent read a bad review about it), sound quality, coolness factor since everyone has an ipod now, and compatability

    the only thing the ipod has is availability
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    Wow, I really helped you out, big time. :D
     
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