Movie Talk (New Films, Old Films... doesn't matter) (88 Viewers)
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Shazam was good it was a light hearted superhero movie alot less dark.
Wonder woman was very good
The dark Knight trilogy was epic!
Aquaman was pretty good as well
I think DC will build on those more individual films first before doing the new justice league
Matt reeves version of Batman is said to be a Noir detective movie more Batman centric with a whole rogues gallery sounds very interesting
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Wonder woman was very good
The dark Knight trilogy was epic!
Aquaman was pretty good as well
I think DC will build on those more individual films first before doing the new justice league
Matt reeves version of Batman is said to be a Noir detective movie more Batman centric with a whole rogues gallery sounds very interesting
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I'm not counting the Dark Knight trilogy. You can't for this current DC Universe story arc. Now if Christian Bale were to reprise the role, that's a different story altogether. It just looks like it is going to be reboot after reboot for every main character except for Wonder Woman and possibly Aquaman. Ben Afflek as batman was a horrible choice, and as much as I love the Superman comics, Henry Cavill doesn't have much charisma.
There is only one Superman in my book, and that is Christopher Reeve.
The one thing that DC has going for it is that it is home to easily the greatest villain of all time in The Joker. There isn't even a close 2nd. In fact, an argument could be made that the 2nd greatest of all time is Lex Luthor. They need to somehow incorporate Joaquin Phoenix's version of the Joker into the DC Universe for these films.
The problem with the characters, in my opinion, is that the biggest superhero in the DC universe is basically without flaw, and practically unbeatable. Modern movie goers want to see frailties, even in our superheroes. It's tough to captivate an audience when Superman's only weakness is a glowing green rock. And I think that the other issue is that with Batman and Superman, everyone knows their origin story. It's basically canon at this point. There is no wiggle room for interpretation. We've all known their origins for over 80 years. I think the one thing that Marvel had going for it is that not nearly as many people know the origins of Iron Man and Captain America, who are far and away the two biggest characters in their movie universe. It wasn't a "been there, done that" situation. So even though these characters have been around for nearly 60 and 75 years, respectively, it was fresh in the minds of the movie going public.
Well technically the biggest superhero is Batman in comic sales and merchandise. I understand the Superman conundrum and as Superman was a modern retelling of the Messiah this makes sense. The problem is too often just like with movies about Christ they forget the humanity and focus only on the divinity. You need to show both and then it can succeed
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Most interesting story go go for Superman is Injustice arc. But that's only possible after they put in solid continuity in casting and JL characters to have this as the arc, an anti hero demigod overlord tyrant story for Superman, who completely loses it and murders Joker for killing Lois (and nuclear bombing 11m metropolis) and his unborn child. For them to dare to do this story, you need an epic Joker and a solid fleshed JL cast. Batman is super important in this arc, so they would need to stop changing actor every couple of years.
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You just nailed it. Not so much the plot line that you thought of, but the fact that a Batman villain crosses over into the Superman universe. Something that simply doesn't happen in the DC Movie Universe.
Maybe the end credits for Justice League could show some hope with Lex Luthor and Deathstroke meeting on the yacht, but we will see.
SO GOOD!