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:D you know my stance on the magdy character (not magdy himself i think he is the lite version of the mb) but i actually felt sympathy for him through out the movie, however he is easy to deal with and you can actually have a conversation with, unlike the hardcore MB. over all i watched the square three times and every time it saddens me how unorganized the youth side was, add in the fact there was no true leader who could envision the future and in the process bring people around him to make the change that is needed ( some would argue baradie was a candidate but he not being a true politican never really jumped on this chance opening the way for the mb to jump on it and show him how a true politican would make the best of such an event). what i love about this documentary it shows how the youth and actually the revolution was sold by the MB even before Mubarak stepped off ( as much as i despise this fact, its politics and that's the difference between the youth who dreamed up all of this revolution and politicians specially ones like the mb who were a catastrophic opposition group and an even worse ruling class). the final result which this documentary predicts is that the democratic transition that followed the ending of the events portrayed in this documentary would lead to an authoritarian regime are pretty much true and ironically just a day before the 4th anniversary of the revolution all the members of the Mubarak regime, including Mubarak himself and his two sons are released bringing an end to this chapter ( doesn't come as a surprise at least for me, because it makes sense considering Mubarak would've escaped had he not been given solid promises he would not get the shaft,and more importantly when the institution collecting the evidence for his wrong doing is the same ministry of interior that ruled with a fist of steel during his era so its only logical he would be out in the free world )

glad you watched it greg :beer:
Ooh, great context. Especially coming from you. :tup:

You got the sense that the MB was politically organized where the youth's were in way over their heads on that. And one of the key parts of the film I thought was how the MB sold out the other revolutionaries in the square once they got what they wanted.

What I liked about the Magdy character was that he was very human; conflicted yet rationalizing and yet clearly compassionate. A critical part of the story is how allegiances form and break, and how individuals caught in the middle have to cope with that.

The main youth was pretty much on target on predicting how bad things would go down for the MB once the elections were swept and he predicted people would hate them for everything gone wrong.

When the news about Mubarak being released came out, my hope is it was more of a pardoning as a way to move forward - as often happens in successful revolutions without necessary beheadings and the like. (French or otherwise.) But if it truly is a return to the autocratic regime because people have few choices and are frustrated with relentless chaos and lack of progress, that's really concerning.

My wife had a friend who took their family to Cairo a few months ago on holiday. They loved it and said that many people there personally thanked them for visiting, especially under the circumstances.
 

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