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JBF

اختك يا زمن
Aug 5, 2006
18,451
Jasper, Somalia is part of the Arabian Union known as the Arabian Forum.

And as I have argued before, being part of the Arabian world isn't about talking the Arabic language as a primary one as many of the Arabian countries fail to come to terms with such a rule. Facts says that Somalia is in fact an Arabian country along with being part of the African Union just like any other African Arabian country.
 

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IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
Jasper, Somalia is part of the Arabian Union known as the Arabian Forum.

And as I have argued before, being part of the Arabian world isn't about talking the Arabic language as a primary one as many of the Arabian countries fail to come to terms with such a rule. Facts says that Somalia is in fact an Arabian country along with being part of the African Union just like any other African Arabian country.
Exactly, I mean Canada,Azerbaijan,America and Russia are members of the Council of Europe so they must also be European :rolleyes:


Language and ethnicity play a huge roll in determining what Nation you belong to.
 

Mohad

The Ocean Star
May 20, 2009
6,794
Weird, but you acheived the impossible of likening two very opposite examples, because Somalia in comparison has 1 ethnic people, simply put Somalis, 90% of the country (rest are very minor obsecure foreign ethnicities from neighbouring countries, mainly Ethopia, but also few arabs, indians etc). And no suprise, Somali is only language really spoken, arabic is language taught due to religion or education, but not a language widely spoken at all.
I think you are generalizing all Somalis with your statement, which I find it wrong. You mentioned the language, but you forgot the most important thing "tribes".
 

JBF

اختك يا زمن
Aug 5, 2006
18,451
Exactly, I mean Canada,Azerbaijan,America and Russia are members of the Council of Europe so they must also be European :rolleyes:


Language and ethnicity play a huge roll in determining what Nation you belong to.
Your European example is so different than our Arabian one, as here its not about a geographical perspective that unites all the countries but rather a more complicated one that involves history, language, religion and even political views.

As for your second statement, I agree but you're missing the point here that many Somalians are in fact Arabs.
 

IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
Your European example is so different than our Arabian one, as here its not about a geographical perspective that unites all the countries but rather a more complicated one that involves history, language, religion and even political views.

As for your second statement, I agree but you're missing the point here that many Somalians are in fact Arabs.
Seriously? :sergio:

Come on man, you just said language wasn't important and now you're back tracking, and as for the nations of europe not having as complicate historical,religious and political ties, I'd invite you to read some european history books, from around 500AD-2010AD and rethink your statement.
 

Ford Prefect

Senior Member
May 28, 2009
10,557
Your European example is so different than our Arabian one, as here its not about a geographical perspective that unites all the countries but rather a more complicated one that involves history, language, religion and even political views.

As for your second statement, I agree but you're missing the point here that many Somalians are in fact Arabs.
JBF did you ignore my post, i just prooved that the vast majority of somalians were not arabs. 1 in 333 people in Somalia have arabic decent, thats not many, thats a ridiculous minority.
 

JBF

اختك يا زمن
Aug 5, 2006
18,451
Seriously? :sergio:

Come on man, you just said language wasn't important and now you're back tracking, and as for the nations of europe not having as complicate historical,religious and political ties, I'd invite you to read some european history books, from around 500AD-2010AD and rethink your statement.
I've never said Arabic language isn't a fundamental part in being part of the Arabian world, all I've said was that Arabic language isn't and shouldn't be the only perspective that would enable a country to join the Arab world. Which is the case with many Arabian countries which either don't practice Arabic as a first language (Somalia for Example) and others that in fact holds the Arabic language as a first one but only on paper as many foreign languages are used in everyday life instead.

And I've never said that the European countries don't share a common history, religion and political ties actually thats what making such a union emerge in spite of the many other differences they have between each country. All I've said is that Arabian countries have a different case than the European one as in the Arab world almost all countries have Arabic as a first language yet there are about 3 countries have issues regarding that and that's why its either some of those countries that don't feel like they fit in such a union having to deal with many public opinions asking the government to step down from that union to be removed from such a unification if Arab language is the perspective in defining such a union or the majority of Arab speaking countries refusing to consider such countries as Arabs simply if Arabic isn't widely practiced there or as they say "respected there".
 

Bozi

The Bozman
Administrator
Oct 18, 2005
22,748
finally some one is into rom/coms or as my beloved bozi and byrone call chick flicks :disagree:
hey it's not your fault,i mean BIG GIRLS love rom-coms:pumpkin:


there is a very big difference between say spiderman and the watchman
absolutely,Watchmen was more a social observation linked into a superhero story though,while the spiderman films are kids stuff, at least the batman films have the darker edge to them

It's FUCKING EPIC, one of the top 10 movies of all time.
Heat? bollocks,it is a very good movie.but like all MM films it falls flat in the middle and usually tries to gloss over the weaknesses with stylised visuals

good film but not even in Pacino or De Niro's top 10

The Godfather.


It had it all, a movie that really captures the imagination :tup:
absolutely,great movie


oh and guys Kick Ass is fucking hilarious,finally Nicolas Cage returns to comedy and reminds us all why we fell in love with him in the first place,plus the "hit girl" is awesome
 

Ford Prefect

Senior Member
May 28, 2009
10,557
absolutely,Watchmen was more a social observation linked into a superhero story though,while the spiderman films are kids stuff, at least the batman films have the darker edge to them

Make sure you differentiate between the Graphic novel and the film. The film was entertaining but it was a case of style over substance. The graphic novel was really important in its time, the film failed to so what was one of its primary goals (it was meant to proove that there could be an R rated blockbuster its budget was $130 mil and it only took $180 mil, for it to have prooved anythign it would needed to have taken $400 mil minimum). I enjoyed the film but nowhere near to the extent of the Novel.
 

Bozi

The Bozman
Administrator
Oct 18, 2005
22,748
Make sure you differentiate between the Graphic novel and the film. The film was entertaining but it was a case of style over substance. The graphic novel was really important in its time, the film failed to so what was one of its primary goals (it was meant to proove that there could be an R rated blockbuster its budget was $130 mil and it only took $180 mil, for it to have prooved anythign it would needed to have taken $400 mil minimum). I enjoyed the film but nowhere near to the extent of the Novel.
well of course but the novel was sensational, one of the best i have read

and the ending in the movie was shit in comparison to the book but my point was that the Watchmen movie,along with the dark Knight are completely different to the Spider Man,fantastic 4,type superhero movies

I love it when people use the phrase :gsol: Graphic Novel :gsol:

:howler:
do you prefer the term "adult comic book"?
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112

Jasper, Somalia is part of the Arabian Union known as the Arabian Forum.


And as I have argued before, being part of the Arabian world isn't about talking the Arabic language as a primary one as many of the Arabian countries fail to come to terms with such a rule. Facts says that Somalia is in fact an Arabian country along with being part of the African Union just like any other African Arabian country.
That really doesn't mean that much.
 

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