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Dalton

Junior Member
Apr 6, 2006
254
Don't give a fuck of what papers say. We were punished already so a clear message to all Leave The Club Alone .... and another thing We're coming back more powerful and more victorious than we were before. Get ready fans cause the party is going to begin.
 

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Durden

Senior Member
May 11, 2006
1,601
With a couple of right moves on the market we can challenge for the scudetti IMO. We only need a strong player in midfield and defence to be better than Lazio and Fiorentina, so with a little extra you never know what could happen...
 

petersmit

Senior Member
Mar 14, 2006
7,027
Note from the Company

During these months, the players and the whole Juventus’ staff has faced professionally, passionately, and honestly the Serie B championship, getting over last summer grave crisis. The consciousness of having paid a very high price, and that of having closed the matters with the sports Justice, let the Juventus management work calmly, and let it find the confidence to launch an operation of capital increase, which intends to lay the foundations of future success. The news from the press about the conclusion of the investigations by the Public Prosecutors of Naples don’t change the Company’s firm belief of having closed with the past, and not having to answer for anything referring to the behaviour attributable to previous managements, already object of a definitive judgement.
To the fans, that have never stopped supporting, Juventus confirms the greatest dedication to win, and to be back at the top of the international soccer.

so.. greatest dedication to win huh... what was that yesterday... >_<??
 

Durden

Senior Member
May 11, 2006
1,601
Well imo it was dedication to win. The players really worked hard and gave everything, so I don't think it's fair to question that..
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
Well, the idiot Sheridan Bird has hit at Juve again:

Will Match-Fixers Be Euro Champions?

"Life is a rollercoaster, you just gotta ride it." Not my words, but the magical message sung by pint-sized Irish crooner (and John Nicholson's secret favourite) Ronan Keating. By putting some of his life philosophy to a nice, gentle pop tune, the former Boyzone leader delivered a calming tonic to his listeners. Perhaps something similar wouldn't go amiss in Italy right now, as the last few days have been hectic and emotional - full of joy, sadness, shame and concern.

Tuesday night brought the first big downer when the popular, much-vaunted Roma were spanked at Old Trafford. The result went down very badly, and the newspapers were unsparing in their criticism of the Giallorossi, and there were even some tough words for coach Luciano Spalletti. Until this result, Spalletti had been rightly praised by the press for his miracles at the Stadio Olimpico. But even he couldn't walk from the Manchester carnage unscathed. Words like 'humiliation', 'nightmare' and 'disaster' were all thrown around and the football-following public were left in a genuine state of shock at the mauling handed out to Serie A's second-placed side.

But it didn't take long for the pride and smiles to return, thanks to those wily old campaigners AC Milan, who booked their semi-final place the following night. It is the Rossoneri's fourth semi in five years and the sports hacks were quick to salute the team and their knack of getting to Europe's fab four time and time again. Although it wasn't a surprise for Milan supremo Adriano Galliani, who called the Champions League 'our trophy'. A tad fanciful considering they have only won it once since 1995, but they certainly know their way around the qualifying rounds.

Indeed, the national pain from Totti and pals' defensive slapstick show on Tuesday was washed away completely as Ancelotti's team saw off a sterile Bayern with minimum fuss and looked solid at the back throughout. Alessandro Nesta didn't suffer any fresh fitness problems and the whole side looked compact and comfortable. Even Clarence Seedorf played well. And this being a country as superstitious as Italy, it hasn't been forgotten that the last time a final was played in Athens, AC Milan won it 4-0 against a clueless Barcelona.

The excitement and enthusiasm didn't last long though, because last week the prosecutors still investigating the match-fixing scandal released a new batch of suspect matches and a list of individuals under suspicion. The Naples-based investigation has been ongoing for a year and has put a new shadow over calcio. The usual names pop up naturally, including lovable Luciano Moggi and referee Massimo de Santis, but the club who could be in for a particularly difficult time and a truckload of explaining are Sicilian strugglers Messina.

They were very close to relegation last year but lived on to fight another day, but this time they are in deep trouble on and off the pitch. Looking at it from a dyslexic person's viewpoint, you could say Messina are in-a-mess. They risk trial for sporting fraud, and any kind of relegation would be a catastrophe. Staying serene for now, a publicly-defiant club director Pietro Franza said: "We have always operated with absolute legal transparency."

Obviously Juventus are once again involved, and their highly controversial and suspicious 0-0 draw with Milan in 2004 is one of the most notable fixtures in the list of games in doubt. Juve president, the dour Giovanni Cobolli Gigli, has stepped forward and tried to ease fans' fears. In a statement he said: "We have to make it clear that Calciopoli didn't start with Juventus. We've already paid the price for it."

However, it isn't for him, or any of the accused to decide what happens next. High-ranking Italian football official Francesco Saverio Borrelli now has all the dossiers, and the country is awaiting the outcome. But it has taken some of the shine off Milan's achievement, and brought the darker side of calcio back onto the front pages.

On a final note, there is bound to be a huge backlash from the rest of Europe if Milan, convicted and punished in last season's match-fixing scandal themselves, go on to win the Champions League in May. It will look very bad for UEFA indeed.
But I liked how one of Juve fans has replied to his idiocy:

Actually, Mr Sheridan Bird...


In Italy last week 'the prosecutors still investigating the match-fixing scandal' did not just 'release a new batch of suspect matches and a list of individuals under suspicion', but actually announced the conclusion of their investigations, and their accusations.

The accusatory document is full of factual errors, such as an accusation of fixing Juve-Sampdoria which Juve won 1-0. Pity that the result was actually 0-1. Another nice one is the accusation that three Udinese players in Udinese-Brescia were booked by the ref to make sure they missed the next game vs Juve. Yet none of the players were a card away from suspension, and all three played against Juve! In about 100,000 intercepted and transcripted phone calls, for all the unpleasant, unethical conversations, there isn't a single instance of match-fixing. The whole dossier is full of speculation, factual errors, and statements verging on the libellous.

Juventus have been stripped of two titles, sent to Serie B, excluded from the Champions League for at least two years with all the financial loss implied, and in effect forced to sell off one of the strongest squads in European football, all without a shred of proof, and still there are people in Italy calling for more sanctions to be applied! The Juventus president was right about one thing though. Juve cannot be penalised any further. Last summer, since the court could not find evidence of a single match fixed by Juve, they were condemned for having 'fixed the entire league'. Putting aside the fact for now that no-one has yet explained how it is possible to fix a league without altering the result of a single match, Juve have in fact already been penalised for the entire season, so cannot be prosecuted for any other suspected matches in the same season.

I would like to invite Sheridan Bird to forget what gazzetta dello sport says and read the official documents instead!

James Micallef, Amsterdam
:tup: James, Thank you...

By the way, James is the same guy that replied to Sheridan when the scandal erupted the first time. Check this:

http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17806
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
that goal.com columnist again ?
No, he's football365.com columnist.

The goal.com columnist is Resident Paisan. I read his article for today, and guess what?? it's about the necessity for Juve fans to accept that Inter won the scudetto this season in a deserved way:tdown:
 

oriax

Junior Member
Mar 30, 2007
427
Moggi to assist AC Milan transfer plans
tribalfooball.com - April 18, 2007

Disgraced former Juventus sports director Luciano Moggi is set to join AC Milan's technical team.

Quotidiano Nazionale says today that Moggi, the symbol of last year's Calciopoli scandal, will join Milan as a transfer market advisor.

Moggi cannot work in an official capacity for Milan due to his lengthy ban from all football matters, but it's reported that he will begin his work for the Rossoneri within the coming weeks.

Despite his role in the Calciopoli scandal, Moggi is still regarded as the best transfer market operator in the game.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
Paparesta, 40 telefonate con Moggi


Prendiamo un caso su tutti: l’arbitro Gianluca Paparesta. Anche lui, secondo la procura di Napoli, aveva in uso una scheda Sim di quelle estere che Luciano Moggi aveva comprato da un commerciante compiacente a Cernobbio. Le pensavano «sicure» perché non intercettabili. Ma davvero la Sim svizzera è stata usata da Paparesta? Il problema è affrontato preliminarmente dai carabinieri, i quali ritengono di avere provato senza margini di dubbio che sia andata così. «La scheda Sim è stata utilizzata numerosissime volte in Bari», scrivono.

L’area dove il cellulare funziona è per lo più relativa a piazza Massari, Bari, proprio là dove l’arbitro Paparesta abita. Oppure nell’area di Coverciano nei giorni di ritiro degli arbitri. Escludono la possibilità di errore: quando Paparesta non è in Italia, guarda caso in coincidenza di un incontro arbitrato in Tunisia, la scheda risulta essere «assente» dai sistemi telefonici. Ed ecco i risultati come emerge dalla analisi dei tabulati. Telefonate registrate con Moggi: 40 in uscita, 20 in entrata. Telefonate con Fabiani: 21 e 21. Insomma, Paparesta sembra colpito e affondato. E non solo lui. Indagati perché sospettati di far parte della Cupola moggiana e perciò muniti di cellulari svizzeri sono (oltre ai Designatori Bergamo, Pairetto) De Santis, Racalbuto, Cassarà, Dattilo, Bertini, Gabriele, Pieri, più il guardalinee Ambrosino.

«Si è rilevata la sussistenza di traffico telefonico tra le utenze svizzere esaminate (durante la settimana precedente e sino al giorno successivo alle gare) in occasione di: 28 giornate del campionato di serie A, 17 giornate del campionato di serie B, 5 turni della Coppa Italia. In tutte le sopra citate circostanze, è emerso che Luciano Moggi ha avuto contatti con i designatori e con gli arbitri individuati». L’ultimo atto dell’inchiesta Calciopoli ruota attorno alle schede telefoniche svizzere. I carabinieri ne scoprono l’esistenza il 9 febbraio 2005 quando Bergamo da casa sua chiama Moggi su un’utenza svizzera. «Ci risentiamo domani». Ma i carabinieri non riescono a intercettare il colloquio del giorno successivo. «L’esistenza di altre utenze in uso agli indagati emergeva ancor più - scrivono i carabinieri - da colloqui telefonici registrati sulle linee intercettate nei quali, talvolta, uno degli interlocutori si lamentava del fatto che questi non aveva "acceso" il telefono».

Le schede svizzere. Teodosio De Cillis, detto Teo, è il commerciante che le ha vendute a Moggi. Inizialmente aveva negato tutto. Ma il 7 giugno 2006, all’esplosione dello scandalo, davanti ai carabinieri, ammette: «Le schede sono state acquistate presso il mio negozio, le ho vendute personalmente a persone di fiducia di Luciano Moggi, tale Bertolini Giancarlo, il quale, nella primissima occasione, credo si trattasse del mese di giugno 2004, mi chiese espressamente di acquistare 3-4 carte Sim del gestore Sunrise e inoltre mi chiedeva se le stesse potevano essere "non intestate". Mi facevo carico di intestare le schede a persone di mia conoscenza e gli rilasciavo quanto richiestomi».

E Bertolini conferma: «Un giorno - confessa - il signor Moggi mi chiamò nel suo ufficio mostrandomi una scheda telefonica di un gestore svizzero e mi chiese se potevo trovargli altri 10 schede come quelle». Conclusioni dei carabinieri: «Delle cinque utenze attribuite verosimilmente a Moggi, due risultano essere state utilizzate, in periodi diversi, esclusivamente per contatti con Bergamo e Pairetto, mentre le restanti tre erano dedicate ai contatti con gli arbitri e con Mariano Fabiani. Nell’approssimarsi dei sorteggi, nonchè successivamente al loro svolgimento e, ancora, in prossimità di gare e successivamente ad esse, vi è traccia di numerosi contatti tra le varie utenze straniere». Un sistema degno della Spectre, ecco che cosa Moggi mette in piedi. E in un anno risultano 320 ricariche da 25 euro l’una. «Dal traffico telefonico delle utenze - scoprono i carabinieri - emerge come la rete realizzata da Luciano Moggi era ispirata a principi di compartimentazione, per cui vi erano almeno due maglie di comunicazione autonome (non in contatto tra loro) necessarie all’indagato per mantenere assidui contatti riservati».

Il motivo di tanta paranoia lo fa intuire la reazione di Mariano Fabiani, l’amicone di Moggi, l’ex direttore sportivo del Messina: «Non ci sta a passare per il nuovo uomo nero di Calciopoli», fa sapere il suo avvocato, Andrea Niroli. «E’ in grado di smentire ciò che trapela dai giornali e ha le prove che sarebbe stato pedinato dalla stessa società investigativa di cui aveva denunciato di essere stato oggetto di investigazione l’ex arbitro Massimo De Santis. E’ stato sottoposto da parte della società Polis d’Istinto investigazioni». I nemici, insomma, erano gli spioni interisti che facevano riferimento al raggruppamento Pirelli- Telecom.
http://news.google.it/news/url?sa=T....asp&cid=1103040006&ei=8iInRqa7HI2G0gHw9PGHAw
 

Kenobi87

New Member
Apr 17, 2007
43
Well - I don't think that it will happen. But if it does Italy wont win a single trophea the next 10-12 years.

If you take Juve out of Italian football, you will loose to much talent and economic growth in Italy.

I don't think they will do it-They will be shooting in their own foot.
 

BFC82

Junior Member
Oct 24, 2003
493
You're filthy and corrupted should have been sent to the provincial leagues. You are the shame of a nation and no matter how many scudettos you win, they will all be forever tainted.

You are nothing, you will be nothing.
 

Bozi

The Bozman
Administrator
Oct 18, 2005
22,747
You're filthy and corrupted should have been sent to the provincial leagues. You are the shame of a nation and no matter how many scudettos you win, they will all be forever tainted.

You are nothing, you will be nothing.
BYE BYE:eyebrows:

damnit someone banned him before me
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
16,493
You're filthy and corrupted should have been sent to the provincial leagues. You are the shame of a nation and no matter how many scudettos you win, they will all be forever tainted.

You are nothing, you will be nothing.


Oi scrotum face! LOL.

No matter what you say here will upset us. You will always be scared of Juventus regardless. Get over the cheating thing its getting a tad boring now. But you Interisti's still want a excuse for your failures. Like we won every scudetto since your real last one at the end of the 80's.????????? Milan/Lazio/Samp did they cheat too.

We all know that deep down you dont really feel like champions. And your all interested in what Juve are up to cos you simply are shitty your pants of our return.

It wont be long my friend.
 

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