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Desmond

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Jul 12, 2002
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snoop said:
where exactly did you see them in Bible?where exactly did you see Jesus talking about "holly wars" if you show me that,where exactly did you see Jesus supporting fight.would you show me that?
Exactly, I don't...I see him advocating the opposite of wars and conflict, yet these Crusades and Holy Wars were fought in the name of Christianity.

Which is where I'm confused.
 

HelterSkelter

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Apr 15, 2005
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the simple fact is that you canot prove God' existence,just like you cannot prove that he does NOT exist.you cannot prove that a particular religion is correct,just like you cannot prove that a particular religion is incorrect.
it all comes down to which side of the fence you want to be,and thats it.you cant call yourside of the fence better than the other side of the fence simply because you're not standing there.its a matter of faith,and it cannot be proved wrong or correct by any means.and swearing at another person's beliefs or the God,prophet and book that he follows is about as ignorant as you can get -it only shows that you have a weak argument and that is why you have to refrain to swearing to get your point through.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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ßömßärdiër said:
Well, Andy and I had not talked when I did this.

Trust me, I am a lot smarter than a lot of you give me credit for.
Smarter than we give you credit for or smarter than you give us reason to believe?
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Martin said:
Smarter than we give you credit for or smarter than you give us reason to believe?
Martin, Burke has street smarts. even though he might not make several awesome posts, he still is a smart guy and can have some moments of brilliance, not includiing this one. I would not be condsidered his friend if this was not the case..

Anyway, he's not the most objective on this subject. :D
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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RochemBeck said:
Martin, Burke has street smarts. even though he might not make several awesome posts, he still is a smart guy and can have some moments of brilliance, not includiing this one. I would not be condsidered his friend if this was not the case..
Both as a former admin and as a human being, may I say that I wish he would exhibit those qualities more frequently.
 

Shoryuken

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Jan 7, 2005
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Zé Tahir said:
Well, the Bible, we can all agree was written by man by no divine inspiration. The Qur'an on the other hand is 100% God's words. Any sane man who's read it cannot deny that. Until then, Axl is right, there is no definite answer.
Oh really? how do you figure that? thats very insulting, so basicly what you are saying is that anybody who doesnt belive Islam to be the true religion of God must be insane. Its right there in your post, in plain english.

FYI, The Quran is a cheap knock off of the Bible with some slight alterations. It even suggests that Judaism and Christianity is the word of Allah but that Islam is the final revelation. I wonder if Mohamed was to lazy to come up with some shit off his own. Maybe he just decided it was too much work so it would be better to try and steal followers from other religions.

Either way, believe what ever you want if it gives you comfort and helps you thru life, nothing wrong with that, but dont come here and suggest people are insane if they dont acknowlege Islam to be the one and only true religion.
 
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