Mike Brown/Ferguson riots (16 Viewers)

[Hængebøffer]

I just saw a program about police academy students here. One of the instructors told them about a research that was made in New York. 80% of the times a gun is fired in New York, it's a miss.

 

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[Tevez10]

That's ridiculous. These are not Walmarts or Safeways you are talking about. These are mostly family owned stores run by people who are trying to make a better life for their kids. Like that lady whose cake shop got ransacked. So yeah, let their businesses be destroyed so that later their kids can grow up in poverty and be drawn to crime as well

It bothers me that you guys have bigger worries than few families businesses. While police is shooting people who are protesting!

 

[icemaη]

It bothers me that you guys have bigger worries than few families businesses. While police is shooting people who are protesting!

(If by you guys you mean Americans) FYI, I'm neither American nor do I live there.

 

[Tevez10]

(If by you guys you mean Americans) FYI, I'm neither American nor do I live there.

I didn't mean americans. But you guys talking about few businesses it was absurd, it was like saying too bad that shop in Syria was burned from the bombing, and ignoring hundreds of civilians getting killed.

 

[Cuti]

but in this case, it is the civilians doing harm to other innocent civilians to try make a point against the authority

 

[icemaη]

I didn't mean americans. But you guys talking about few businesses it was absurd, it was like saying too bad that shop in Syria was burned from the bombing, and ignoring hundreds of civilians getting killed.

I don't even...

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I salute brave Africans for their honourable struggle of freedom and their right to have their own country in the lands of America.

wot

 

[Enron]

Well in a lot of "thriving" neighborhoods full of blue collar workers, one day black people decided to move in. The blue collars, concerned about property prices dropping and the neighborhood not being as nice anymore, moved into the suburbs. That's why you'll see large black populations into certain areas of big cities.

Now why did the new people moving in and the old people moving out lead to such drastic changes? Well, with the property prices being driven down, local businesses also left. Could new places have popped up to replace those businesses? Sure. I'm personally not informed enough to answer stuff like that and you'll probably need to talk to someone with a history degree to get a more comprehensive picture.

Also, a lot of the businesses employing blue-collar workers downsized or went belly-up. Why? Again, not sure. But yes, black people moving into certain areas led to those areas turning into "bad" places which sucks for everyone involved, especially the black people. Was there racism involved in the decision of white people to move out? Yeah, probably. Does that mean it's their fault? Idk, maybe, maybe not.

But what people need to focus on is improving those places, not making them worse and shit like riots and high crime rate in those areas doesn't exactly help. Like that cop in the video I posted said, over 80% of shootings and murders are committed by blacks and when they start riots because one of them gets shot by a police officer it can make some seem like hypocrites.

Pretty off idea of "white flight". Points for trying though.

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Look, fact is, I don't think they cop needed to shoot him so many times. He shot him in the arm, Mike started going down. Leave it there.

He only hit him like 3 times. Final time in the dome piece.

Still I read officer Wilson's account and there are a number of things that just don't make sense.

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There is no way that black eye witnesses would testify corroborating the officer's account of the incident in an open trial. The only way they can feel safe from retaliation is to testify in secret in front of a grand jury. It doesn't take much for a grand jury to hand down an indictment so the evidence and testimonies must have been so strong in favor of the cop that they couldn't even find involuntary manslaughter.

At the same time, there was no way the prosecutor's office was going to indict this police officer.

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Bingo, and this is in spite of all the media nonsense and Obama's crew coming after them.

These protestors are simply imbeciles, not going to lie.

Definitely, you ruin your entire cause with shit like that (looting, destruction of property, etc). And make the people actually peacefully protesting get lumped in with you.

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How many shots was it in the end?

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I don't remember, a lot.

You guys can access all the information from the Grand Jury. It's now available to the public. And it was only 12 shots that were fired.

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How many shots was it in the end?

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I don't get why clearly controversial occurrences like this are the ones where the black community choose to make a stand. It just doesn't make sense. Take this case instead, for example. There's a lot less gray area.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/29/utah-police-shooting/18102775/

For the Ferguson community there already was a lot of racial tension between the police department and the community. Neither liked each other and Mike Brown's incident was more a boiling point than anything. It gained national attention after the original protests that were handled less than professionally by the Ferguson PD. You can only fire into crowds and call people animals for so long before Uncles Jesse and Al show up with the greatest show on earth.

Remember that the police that have been handling the protests since then were from the St Louis and St Louis County PDs. And by all standards, they done a fantastic job.

This does take away from incidents were black communities are actually protected and get justice. Like the case in Florida were the dude was angry cause black kids were playing their music to loud and then he shot them. The police officer in Wisconsin who was recently fired for shooting a black kid. The old dude in Detroit who panic shot drunk girl through his front door. No one remembers those instances and it's a damn shame.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

@Enron i take it you read the grand jury proceedings, what do you make of it?

 

[icemaη]

Noob question. The Grand Jury decides if there's a case to prosecute, in this case, the police officer? If they had found him 'guilty', then there would be a trial?

 

[Ocelot]

Noob question. The Grand Jury decides if there's a case to prosecute, in this case, the police officer? If they had found him 'guilty', then there would be a trial?

Basically yeah, you got the right idea.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Noob question. The Grand Jury decides if there's a case to prosecute, in this case, the police officer? If they had found him 'guilty', then there would be a trial?

yes

 

[Hust]

That's the whole point. How did they become this way? All just happened in a random vacuum right? Just like the creation of the universe?

You are asking a question that will take this thread to a whole new level.

I will answer that with two answers:

-Victim Card
-Rap Music

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It bothers me that you guys have bigger worries than few families businesses. While police is shooting people who are protesting!

You can't be serious?

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wot

another jerk_bianconero gem.

 

[Maddy]

Land of opportunity strikes again!

Without social, economical and educational reforms these problems will continue and worsen.

The land of inequality is not the solution despite Fox News propaganda.

 

[Hust]

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These fools have enough "benefits" to make educated decisions. The safety nets and victim mentality keeps them from ever pulling out of this mess.

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The only black adults people I feel sorry for are the grandparents who actually went through tough times to build a better life but the following generations have cocked it up and by no fault but their own.

I feel sorry for the young children who will know no better.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I salute brave Africans for their honourable struggle of freedom and their right to have their own country in the lands of America.

They aren't Africans, they're Americans.

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I just saw a program about police academy students here. One of the instructors told them about a research that was made in New York. 80% of the times a gun is fired in New York, it's a miss.

Literally right in front of him and every shot missed . Look at how he holds the gun

 

[icemaη]

They aren't Africans, they're Americans.

Don't indulge him. I believe in my heart that if we ignore him long enough he'll disappear. A man can dream

 

[Hust]

Don't indulge him. I believe in my heart that if we ignore him long enough he'll disappear. A man can dream

Nope.

Proof is in the Cronios-pudding.

In fact, I prefer to indulge him I find humor in it. Turkish people really aren't turkish anyways, they are more Greek than anything.

 

[icemaη]

Literally right in front of him and every shot missed . Look at how he holds the gun

The dude in the white T-shirt

 

[Hust]

They aren't Africans, they're Americans.

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Literally right in front of him and every shot missed . Look at how he holds the gun

Not one white person in the video.