Mike Brown/Ferguson riots (16 Viewers)

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Bingo, and this is in spite of all the media nonsense and Obama's crew coming after them.

These protestors are simply imbeciles, not going to lie.

Meh, I'll take that.

 

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Bingo, and this is in spite of all the media nonsense and Obama's crew coming after them.

These protestors are simply imbeciles, not going to lie.

That's ridiculous.

If you think that they're protesting simply over this one incident then the name calling should reflect back on you.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7287443/dorian-johnson-story

This article compares the stories told by Wilson (the officer) and Michael Brown's friend (Johnson). I personally can't help finding Johnson's account much more believable but either way, this much is absolutely true:

"Indeed, we might never get to the truth of what happened in those two minutes on August. But the point of a trial would have been to get us closer. We would have found out if everything we thought we knew about Brown was wrong, or if Wilson's story was flawed in important ways, or if key witnesses completely broke under pressure. We would have heard real cross-examination. We would have seen the strongest case that could be mounted by both the prosecution and the defense. But now we're not going to get that chance. We're just left with these Rashomon-like testimonies, a dead 18-year-old, and a shattered family."

you just like it for the kurosawa reference

seriously though, nobody should have the intellectual cojones to call it one way or the other unless they were privy to all the available evidence ie be on the grand jury, otherwise we are just being taken on an emotional roller coaster powered by the ratings hungry media and the spoon fed twitter social justice warriors.

Look, fact is, I don't think they cop needed to shoot him so many times. He shot him in the arm, Mike started going down. Leave it there.

in cases of self defense you shoot to kill.

 

[Hust]

That's ridiculous.

If you think that they're protesting simply over this one incident then the name calling should reflect back on you.

No, Andy is being diplomatic. These violent protesters are absolutely fucking mental. Most of the business they destroyed in Ferguson are minority owned. They are out to prove a point and it doesn't matter who they hurt in the process. It's sheer stupidity from fucktards like this that get them shot. And they wonder why they get profiled. Come visit Anacostia neighborhoods here in DC and you might get a better picture of what you are seeing in the news.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

A post on Facebook that I particularly liked:

"Race is going to be (is) the greatest issue of Generations X, Y and Z.

I've said time and time again that race is a man made invention created by the ignorance of our ancestors to feed a subconscious need for conflict that's been carried on the shoulders of each generation. Unfortunately it's now a real thing that needs to be addressed.

I've had the amazing opportunity to walk this earth and meet people of different ethnic backgrounds and not just my own. As such, I did not develop a mob mentality where I think of PEOPLE as US vs THEM and it gives me a clarity that some people can not have.

America has come a long way from Slavery and Segregation but institutionalized ways of thinking don't die as easily as people do. There is a system that's been created in our country that has poisoned our social views warped the way we see ourselves and each other. It's a system where justice at one point meant that lynching one black person was just as good as lynching another with no trial even if there was no evidence of their participation in a crime but now its poisoned all of us.

This is a system where Black people who can articulate themselves and carry themselves well are now seen as acting or talking white by other Black and White people.

It's a system were Someone cannot call a distasteful black person thuggish without being called a racist or an Uncle Tom and other black people are offended.

Its a system where racial profiling against blacks and latinos is argued for with crime statistics but no one recommends patting down white teenage males before they step on a campus even though that demographic disproportionately causes mass school shootings.

Its a system where black people can despise racism on one hand but then lump whites together in the same bag and use racial slurs to describe them on social media when something terrible happens in the world.

Its a lens where seeing black skin sends a signal to the brain that perceives that person as a 'threat' in the same way that the sight of a Swastika would put someone on guard. As such a person who is white and wielding a gun is likely to be shot once in the knee while a black counterpart is likely to get 6 in the face.

It's a system that created socioeconomic poverty in minority communities and has been carried by: a glorification of trashy behavior and a desire for short term materialistic possessions rather than the means of long term financial gain.

It's a system where The first Black President of the United States is told to 'Go back to Africa' by his colleagues and then they're mystified when someone calls them racists

It's a System where Sarah Palin and her Family can get into a street brawl and whites aren't bothered by it because they understand that Sarah Palin's family's action are their own and does not reflect anyone else; but if Barack Obama or Denzel Washington's family did the same thing every black person in this country would hold their heads in shame.

It's a system where an unarmed person getting shot and a Black unarmed person getting shot are two different things.

I cannot understand for the life of me why someone would want to be Pro-Darren Wilson. This man gunned down an unarmed civilian. Mike Brown was no saint, in fact I'll go as far as to call him thuggish after I saw that video. However 12 SHOTS? Police Officers are not supposed to act that way. They're supposed to be trained better than that. No Police Officer who has taken the oath to protect and serve and has gone through the proper training to do so, should want to be thrown in the same bag a a fuck up like him. Darren Wilson is the George W. Bush of Police Officers. Lets say he was a Surgeon who was doing an operation and he screwed up so badly that the person he operated on Died as a result of poor judgement, or panicking do we rally behind the Surgeon? Do other Surgeons put on badges that say "I am just like ______?"

Friends, Racism and Prejudice are not Beetle Juice. They don't magically stay away as long as we don't mention them. This is an uncomfortable conversation but since when are the conversations worth having make us feel safe and secure? I've held preconceived notions about women and Gay people before, and it was only AFTER did I have an honest conversation did my way of thinking expand. It's unifying and liberating.
We're fucking Americans are we really afraid of having a conversation with each other?"

Excellent article

 

[Hust]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...ers-have-been-shot-chicago-michael-brown-died

 

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I like the infographics found in that link

 

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No, Andy is being diplomatic. These violent protesters are absolutely $#@!ing mental. Most of the business they destroyed in Ferguson are minority owned. They are out to prove a point and it doesn't matter who they hurt in the process. It's sheer stupidity from $#@!tards like this that get them shot. And they wonder why they get profiled. Come visit Anacostia neighborhoods here in DC and you might get a better picture of what you are seeing in the news.

That's the whole point. How did they become this way? All just happened in a random vacuum right? Just like the creation of the universe?

 

[Salvo]

you just like it for the kurosawa reference

seriously though, nobody should have the intellectual cojones to call it one way or the other unless they were privy to all the available evidence ie be on the grand jury, otherwise we are just being taken on an emotional roller coaster powered by the ratings hungry media and the spoon fed twitter social justice warriors.



in cases of self defense you shoot to kill.

Mike walked away, ran away, whatever then came back. After being shot, with his hands up. Surely there was another option as opposed to pumping him with bullets. I am not defending him, if he did indeed attack the cop, but I refuse to believe there wasn't a better choice.

 

[ALC]

Well in a lot of "thriving" neighborhoods full of blue collar workers, one day black people decided to move in. The blue collars, concerned about property prices dropping and the neighborhood not being as nice anymore, moved into the suburbs. That's why you'll see large black populations into certain areas of big cities.

Now why did the new people moving in and the old people moving out lead to such drastic changes? Well, with the property prices being driven down, local businesses also left. Could new places have popped up to replace those businesses? Sure. I'm personally not informed enough to answer stuff like that and you'll probably need to talk to someone with a history degree to get a more comprehensive picture.

Also, a lot of the businesses employing blue-collar workers downsized or went belly-up. Why? Again, not sure. But yes, black people moving into certain areas led to those areas turning into "bad" places which sucks for everyone involved, especially the black people. Was there racism involved in the decision of white people to move out? Yeah, probably. Does that mean it's their fault? Idk, maybe, maybe not.

But what people need to focus on is improving those places, not making them worse and shit like riots and high crime rate in those areas doesn't exactly help. Like that cop in the video I posted said, over 80% of shootings and murders are committed by blacks and when they start riots because one of them gets shot by a police officer it can make some seem like hypocrites.

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Mike walked away, ran away, whatever then came back. After being shot, with his hands up. Surely there was another option as opposed to pumping him with bullets. I am not defending him, if he did indeed attack the cop, but I refuse to believe there wasn't a better choice.

Idk, dude. If I'm a cop and someone tries to attack me, I'm going to assume they mean to kill me. Plus, you don't know if the guy's packing or not.

 

[Salvo]

How many shots was it in the end?

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[ALC]

I don't remember, a lot.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Mike walked away, ran away, whatever then came back. After being shot, with his hands up. Surely there was another option as opposed to pumping him with bullets. I am not defending him, if he did indeed attack the cop, but I refuse to believe there wasn't a better choice.

all irrelevant up until the point he comes back, which would make no sense if it is to come back with your hands up, and once again police officers are trained to shoot to kill in cases of self-defenses, and rightfully so imo

 

[Salvo]

It is hard to say with the confusion surrounding the circumstances, I just think the amount of shots was excessive.

 

[Tevez10]

Why? What did they do to you? Or in leechfuck terms, what didn't they do for you?

Because there are more important things! When crises like this come I can't be bothered about businesses.

 

[icemaη]

Because there are more important things! When crises like this come I can't be bothered about businesses.

That's ridiculous. These are not Walmarts or Safeways you are talking about. These are mostly family owned stores run by people who are trying to make a better life for their kids. Like that lady whose cake shop got ransacked. So yeah, let their businesses be destroyed so that later their kids can grow up in poverty and be drawn to crime as well

 

[Nzoric]

That's ridiculous. These are not Walmarts or Safeways you are talking about. These are mostly family owned stores run by people who are trying to make a better life for their kids. Like that lady whose cake shop got ransacked. So yeah, let their businesses be destroyed so that later their kids can grow up in poverty and be drawn to crime as well

It's all a ploy by big business.

 

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Land of the free

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

I salute brave Africans for their honourable struggle of freedom and their right to have their own country in the lands of America.

 

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