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[ZoSo]

lighten up will you, if music wasn't a competition then no bands would strive to be better than others to be more popular etc.

I hate how people act like zeppelin were the only ones to 'rip off' blues and folk songs, like the stones, dylan, clapton etc didn't. Not only that, but just about every artist will have some kind of 'ripoff'/heavy influence in some of their songs. anybody who says they don't are lying. 'borrowing' in blues and folk music is commonplace anyway... I can bet that a lot of the guys they 'ripped off' probably also ripped off stuff from someone else before it was recorded.

I've read that a few times the label decided not to credit the original artists or whatever for Zeppelin and a couple were innocent mistakes like Babe I'm Gonna Leave You. It's all been sorted out now so I don't see what the difference is, you'd have to be seriously deluded if you think they would be less popular if they had some extra credits in the liner notes on a few songs.

 

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[KB824]

@ZoSo


I respect your musical tastes, as I feel that we have a common ground on most things musically, but to call Queen overrated, man.

I don't know. 4 members of a band like that who were each gifted songwriters and musicians.

 

[ZoSo]

Freddie obviously had a great voice and Brian May is an awesome guitarist but I think a lot of their more pop stuff is very forgettable and annoying. I don't know how anyone older than 14 years old could stand songs like Don't Stop Me Now, Bicycle Race etc. The more hard rock stuff is awesome but I also think their music hasn't aged too well compared to Zeppelin, The Who etc.. not all of it but generally I would say it has.

 

[KB824]

Freddie obviously had a great voice and Brian May is an awesome guitarist but I think a lot of their more pop stuff is very forgettable and annoying. I don't know how anyone older than 14 years old could stand songs like Don't Stop Me Now, Bicycle Race etc. The more hard rock stuff is awesome but I also think their music hasn't aged too well compared to Zeppelin, The Who etc.. not all of it but generally I would say it has.

I think that it is the diverse nature of the songs that makes them stand the test of time. Say what you will about Queen, where they should rank amongst the all time greats, but one thing that you can definitely say about them is that they don't sound like anyone else, and no two songs sound the same with these guys. They didn't give a fuck, they did the music they wanted to do. Freddie came out and said as much, even if it meant hurting their popularity. I mean, just go back to the tribute concert for Freddie Mercury and you had everyone from George Michael, to David Bowie, Roger Daltrey, Robert Plant, Tony Iommi, Elton John, Axl Rose, Metallica, Def Leppard, Lisa Stansfield, etc etc performing queen songs. That speaks volumes about the influence they had, and still have.


FFS, I can't find tickets anywhere for the Queen + Adam Lambert tour that is going to happen this summer, and that is with them adding 5 more dates. Much like I couldn't find any for Queen + Paul Rodgers 7 years ago.


And this isn't a Led Zeppelin vs Queen debate, because I love them both dearly. I spent many hours in high school scribbling the lyrics to Out on the Tiles and Seven Seas of Rhye, and tyring to recreate the Queen logo and making a cool one for Zeppelin on my notebooks.

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[ZoSo]

I find some of their songs extremely unlikeable and some very likeable, I'm not denying their influence or saying they aren't a great band, I just think they're a bit overrated. I wasn't making a LZ vs Queen debate, just saying their music sounds more dated to me than to other great bands of the time.

Favourite Zeppelin song is probably No Quarter from the The Song Remains The Same, favourite solo of all time too. Page at his best.

Although could just as easily be Black Dog or Kashmir.

Queen, probably Another One Bites The Dust, Stone Cold Crazy or One Vision.

 

[petersmit]

Favourite Zeppelin song: The rover
Favourite Queen song: The hammer to fall

 

[KB824]

Joni Mitchell said it best when she said "Don't know what you've got till its gone."

Back in 1991, I didn't have the internet, or television with 300 channels. Really the only way to get music news was through magazines (which were never really up to date), and MTV, and at that time, Queen had fallen way off the United States landscape. I didn't know that they had videos for Innuendo, Headlong, and These are the days of our lives.

At that time, I had kind of forgotten about them. I had purchased the Innuendo CD that came out earlier in the year, it was the only copy that the record store had, because that was all that they had ordered, and I really liked it. Thought it was a return to from to their grand style of music.

When Freddie announced that he had AIDS, I was stunned. I honestly didn't know he was sick. With limited information out there back then, you simply couldn't follow it. And then I went back and listened to the CD again, and one thing struck me.


This man was dying when he did this album. He was dying, and yet, the ferocity of his voice on some of those more powerful tracks like Show must go On, and Hitman didn't sound like someone who was on his deathbed. Yeah, he was 45, and his voice wasn't the same as it was when he was 25, but the vocals were incredible.

And then I started reading the lyrics to the CD, and MTV started playing the "Days of Our Lives" video, and it hit me that he was saying goodbye, and I just simply lost it. I cried, and I cried, especially on the day he passed away. And my love for Queen was rekindled, and it still goes strong nearly 23 years after he passed away. I always listen to at least one Queen song every day

 

[ZoSo]

Certainly can relate to "Don't know what you've got till its gone" since I've been sick for like a week

 

[CrimsonianKing]

lighten up will you, if music wasn't a competition then no bands would strive to be better than others to be more popular etc.

I hate how people act like zeppelin were the only ones to 'rip off' blues and folk songs, like the stones, dylan, clapton etc didn't. Not only that, but just about every artist will have some kind of 'ripoff'/heavy influence in some of their songs. anybody who says they don't are lying. 'borrowing' in blues and folk music is commonplace anyway... I can bet that a lot of the guys they 'ripped off' probably also ripped off stuff from someone else before it was recorded.

I've read that a few times the label decided not to credit the original artists or whatever for Zeppelin and a couple were innocent mistakes like Babe I'm Gonna Leave You. It's all been sorted out now so I don't see what the difference is, you'd have to be seriously deluded if you think they would be less popular if they had some extra credits in the liner notes on a few songs.

I still say it's no competition unless you're into that hair metal shit from the 80's and it's bitchies.

Borrowing is one thing, Zeppelin stole and didn't pay royalties or at least credit the actual composers. I don't have it in my collection but i've seen it with my own 2 eyes, a friend had records from 70' and 71' and it didn't credit Dixon who's the rightful writer of "You Shook me" and "I Can't Quit You Baby", it was credited to Page/Plant like they were their own. 2 decades later they got sued and lost.

Now if the label made them do it, that's a mix of naivety and dumbness. No, they would be less popular if people back then knew. The whole plagiarism thing didn't come out until the 90's if i'm not mistaken.

Ps. Give Queen a better listen, They were fantastic.

 

[ZoSo]

Of course it's a competition, do you have any idea how many thousands and thousands of bands there are?

As I said, you'll find the same thing with Bob Dylan & The Stones etc. Don't make it out like they were the only ones that did it and a lot were not very similar or only took 1 element like lyrics. Yes, stoned teenagers of the 70s would definitely care if some of the songs also had credits to some other dude in the album notes.

 

[radekas]

Joni Mitchell said it best when she said "Don't know what you've got till its gone."

Back in 1991, I didn't have the internet, or television with 300 channels. Really the only way to get music news was through magazines (which were never really up to date), and MTV, and at that time, Queen had fallen way off the United States landscape. I didn't know that they had videos for Innuendo, Headlong, and These are the days of our lives.

At that time, I had kind of forgotten about them. I had purchased the Innuendo CD that came out earlier in the year, it was the only copy that the record store had, because that was all that they had ordered, and I really liked it. Thought it was a return to from to their grand style of music.

When Freddie announced that he had AIDS, I was stunned. I honestly didn't know he was sick. With limited information out there back then, you simply couldn't follow it. And then I went back and listened to the CD again, and one thing struck me.


This man was dying when he did this album. He was dying, and yet, the ferocity of his voice on some of those more powerful tracks like Show must go On, and Hitman didn't sound like someone who was on his deathbed. Yeah, he was 45, and his voice wasn't the same as it was when he was 25, but the vocals were incredible.

And then I started reading the lyrics to the CD, and MTV started playing the "Days of Our Lives" video, and it hit me that he was saying goodbye, and I just simply lost it. I cried, and I cried, especially on the day he passed away. And my love for Queen was rekindled, and it still goes strong nearly 23 years after he passed away. I always listen to at least one Queen song every day

What Freddie did for The Show Must Go On is simply out of this world. It is my favourite song of all time and a legacy left by Freddie for everyone. It should be an inspiration for everyone:

"Demo versions featured May singing, having to sing some parts in falsetto because they were too high. When Brian May presented the final demo to Mercury, he had doubts that Mercury would be physically capable of singing the song's highly demanding vocal line, due to the extent of his illness at the time. To May's surprise, when the time came to record the vocals, Mercury consumed a measure of vodka and said "I'll fucking do it, darling!" then proceeded to perform the vocal line in one take without problems."

This man was a natural born genius... even at his death bed. There won't be another like him for a long time.

 

[KB824]

What Freddie did for The Show Must Go On is simply out of this world. It is my favourite song of all time and a legacy left by Freddie for everyone. It should be an inspiration for everyone:

"Demo versions featured May singing, having to sing some parts in falsetto because they were too high. When Brian May presented the final demo to Mercury, he had doubts that Mercury would be physically capable of singing the song's highly demanding vocal line, due to the extent of his illness at the time. To May's surprise, when the time came to record the vocals, Mercury consumed a measure of vodka and said "I'll fucking do it, darling!" then proceeded to perform the vocal line in one take without problems."

This man was a natural born genius... even at his death bed. There won't be another like him for a long time.

Their first 5 albums were sheer fucking brilliance. Queen (Liar, Keep Yourself Alive) Queen II (Father to Son, Ogre Battle, Seven Seas of Rhye) Sheer Heart Attack (Killer Queen, Now I'm Here, In the Lap of the Gods, Brighton Rock, Stone Cold Crazy) A Night at the Opera (Basically every fucking song) A Day at the Races (Tie your Mother down, Somebody to Love, Long Away). What more can you possibly say? Even theri more mainstream realeases with News of the World, Jazz, and The Game have tons of hit songs on them. It's just ridiculous. And as I stated earlier, go back and listen to all of those songs I mentioned, and not one of them sound like the other.

 

[KB824]

I've said it many times, but man I miss Ronnie


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[ZoSo]

Mastodon album is called 'Once More Round The Sun'

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...troy-sanders-talks-new-album-once-more-r.html

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Opeth's "Pale Communion" Coming June 17

Opeth has announced the release of their hugely anticipated eleventh studio album. Pale Communion arrives everywhere June 17.

Pale Communion, which was produced by bandleader Mikael Åkerfeldt and mixed by longtime collaborator and Porcupine Tree frontman/guitarist Steven Wilson, will be heralded by the lead single, “Cusp of Eternity,” and available for pre-order starting Tuesday, May 6. Pre-orders made via the iTunes Store will receive an instant download of “Cusp of Eternity,” with multiple configurations also available via both the Roadrunner Records Webstore and O Merch.

The new material finds Opeth once again challenging the boundaries of extreme music. In a recent interview with VICE’s Noisey, Åkerfeldt stated, “I wanted to do something more melodic with this album…there’s stronger vocal melodies and more melodies overall…I was pretty consistent with that frame of mind throughout the writing process.” Recently, Metal Injection’s Greg Kennelty broke down Pale Communion in a track-by-track review, exclaiming, “This record knows exactly what it's doing and nails it through and through…one of my favorite records of 2014. If not my favorite record of 2014.”


The track listing for Pale Communion is as follows:


1. Eternal Rains Will Come
2. Cusp of Eternity
3. Moon Above, Sun Below
4. Elysian Woes
5. Goblin
6. River
7. Voice of Treason
8. Faith in Others

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/opeth-pale-communion-20140408

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[Nzoric]

AkerGOD.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Very happy to know that Wilson is mixing the album. Can't wait to listen to it.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

From Steven Wilson's FB page:

"The new Opeth album Pale Communion was mixed into stereo and 5.1 at my studio in February. I also sang harmony vocals. It’s by no stretch of the imagination a metal record but it’s still plenty heavy and a great piece of work - for me the epic orchestrated ballad “Faith in Others” that closes the album is Mikael Åkerfeldt's finest achievement to date. Pale Communion is released by Roadrunner Records on 19th June. It’s also the first Opeth album to be recorded and mixed in higher resolution 96/24. I hope Roadrunner will release a high res format, but I don't know their plans on that."

So excited. I loved Heritage as it focused way more on his Progressive Rock influences and it seems this new one will follow the same path.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

 

[Nzoric]

Very happy to know that Wilson is mixing the album. Can't wait to listen to it.

Exciting year to be a metal fan.

Mastodon To Release New Album 'Once More Around The Sun’
by Zack Zarrillo - Apr 7, 201433 notes




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Mastodon will be releasing a new album called Once More Around The Sun. There are not many readers on the record in terms of a release date or artwork, but Paste has a story with more about the actual album that can be read below after the jump.
“The songs all revealed themselves as what we’d hoped they’d sound like,” Sanders told us in February, immediately following the album’s tracking. “It’s big hugs all the way around. The four of us are digging it very heavily.” The album—which took the band from their hometown in Atlanta to Franklin, Tenn., for recording late last year—was just mixed by producer Nick Raskulinecz (Deftones, Rush, Alice in Chains, The Hold Steady). Now the Atlanta quartet is just waiting to solidify a release date.

“The idea was generated before we recorded the title track on the record, but the title was thought up many months ago,” Sanders said earlier this week about Once More Round the Sun. “After we finished the two-year touring cycle on our last record, The Hunter, we were kind of gearing up to go back to our rehearsal space in Atlanta. And we were starting the effort, the time, the blood, the energy, the months of driving, the recording and the long process between recording and the release day.

“In a nutshell: we’re fortunate enough to do this again, but there’s this feeling of this yearly cycle. It’s not a bad thing. We get to go tour a bunch, we get to record a bunch of songs we love. It’s embracing the positive—the wonderful side, to be able to have the same four dudes who love doing what we do so much. And like anything in the Mastodon world, it’s open to interpretation.”