Messi vs C.Ronaldo (47 Viewers)
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Yeah I don't think I've for example ever seen a list of best ever footballers that is topped by CR7. Even on fucking redcafe Messi is considered the better player and Ronaldo is a United legend. I think we just live in a time where everyone is considered a GOAT as many sports fans for some reason seem desperate to market their favourite athletes as such. In tennis alone we currently apparently have three GOATS. The word GOAT really doesn't have much value left.
Twitter to the rescue 
. Those numbers don't really make it any more conclusive. One thing I could bet on is that Messi and Ronaldo fanbois have been super busy creating Twitter profiles. I think that poll perfectly encapsulates what I was saying about the GOAT discussion, fanbois super desperate to market their favourite as the GOAT. Will be interesting to see how these players will be viewed in 20-30 years.
But basically this is what I meant, it's very rare to see any sporting sites list CR7 as the number 1 or to have him win in direct polls against Gnome.
. Those numbers don't really make it any more conclusive. One thing I could bet on is that Messi and Ronaldo fanbois have been super busy creating Twitter profiles. I think that poll perfectly encapsulates what I was saying about the GOAT discussion, fanbois super desperate to market their favourite as the GOAT. Will be interesting to see how these players will be viewed in 20-30 years.But basically this is what I meant, it's very rare to see any sporting sites list CR7 as the number 1 or to have him win in direct polls against Gnome.
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Twitter to the rescue . Those numbers don't really make it any more conclusive. One thing I could bet on is that Messi and Ronaldo fanbois have been super busy creating Twitter profiles. Will be interesting to see how these players will be viewed in 20-30 years.
. Those numbers don't really make it any more conclusive. One thing I could bet on is that Messi and Ronaldo fanbois have been super busy creating Twitter profiles. Will be interesting to see how these players will be viewed in 20-30 years.
Ronaldo will be remembered as the GOAT.
The difference isn't that big, and it matters less than the quality at the top. Plus these guys are dominating for longer, so this is basically 2 different eras compared to the 90s.
I look at it this way, put Sampras in this era. Any age group you want, either Federer's age, so they compete at that time Federer won 11 slams in 4 years, or Nadal and Djokovic age, when Nadal won 6 slams in 3 seasons (of which only 2 RG) or when Djokovic won 4 consecutive, those 3 would win less than they won now, but still win more than him. Great player but 4th best of all time
I look at it this way, put Sampras in this era. Any age group you want, either Federer's age, so they compete at that time Federer won 11 slams in 4 years, or Nadal and Djokovic age, when Nadal won 6 slams in 3 seasons (of which only 2 RG) or when Djokovic won 4 consecutive, those 3 would win less than they won now, but still win more than him. Great player but 4th best of all time
But we are not talking about any other sport. We are talking about football, and within the context of football, Messi's body type is more ideal than Ronaldo.
Acceleration - Messi's first 5 steps have always been significantly faster than Ronaldo. This allows him to get away from his marker more effectively.
Top speed - very close, both were absolutely rapid in their prime.
Balance - Messi's better balance allows him to ride challenges more easily than Ronaldo without falling down.
Ball shielding - Messi is harder to knock off the ball thanks to his lower center of gravity
Agility - Messi's shorter legs allow him to change direction rapidly. Ronaldo is very fast at running in a straight line but cannot change direction like Messi.
Do you really think that it is merely a coincidence that Pele, Maradona and Messi were all midgets? Or maybe being a midget actually brings some very tangible advantages when playing football?
The biggest advantage Ronaldo has over Messi is his height, leaping ability, and weak foot shots. This makes him a more unpredictable and varied goalscorer than Messi, but not a better player overall.
And I'm sure that Ronaldo can bench more than Messi, but Messi is more effective at using his strength on a football pitch:
Look at the challenges Messi can shrug off while keeping his balance. How many of those challenges would Ronaldo be able to take before he hit the deck? Again, I do not blame Ronaldo for that. His body type (6 foot 2 with heavy upper body muscles) just isn't as suited to football.
Acceleration - Messi's first 5 steps have always been significantly faster than Ronaldo. This allows him to get away from his marker more effectively.
Top speed - very close, both were absolutely rapid in their prime.
Balance - Messi's better balance allows him to ride challenges more easily than Ronaldo without falling down.
Ball shielding - Messi is harder to knock off the ball thanks to his lower center of gravity
Agility - Messi's shorter legs allow him to change direction rapidly. Ronaldo is very fast at running in a straight line but cannot change direction like Messi.
Do you really think that it is merely a coincidence that Pele, Maradona and Messi were all midgets? Or maybe being a midget actually brings some very tangible advantages when playing football?
The biggest advantage Ronaldo has over Messi is his height, leaping ability, and weak foot shots. This makes him a more unpredictable and varied goalscorer than Messi, but not a better player overall.
And I'm sure that Ronaldo can bench more than Messi, but Messi is more effective at using his strength on a football pitch:
Look at the challenges Messi can shrug off while keeping his balance. How many of those challenges would Ronaldo be able to take before he hit the deck? Again, I do not blame Ronaldo for that. His body type (6 foot 2 with heavy upper body muscles) just isn't as suited to football.