Messi vs C.Ronaldo (55 Viewers)

[Zacheryah]

Barca dont have a shitty defence? If Ronaldo is so good then how come he couldn't even get 1 chance tonight while Benzema got about 5?

Shitty defence ?

alba, alves, mascherano and pique ? Thats like one of the best 5 defences in europe.
Barcelona were mostly focussing on ronaldo, drawing mascherano from his cb to cover for him, giving benzema more space.

Wich is what madrid should have done with messi, but they didnt.

 

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[ALC]

Ronaldo is more complete just due to being a beast, but it's hard to say one is obviously better than the other. They're both monsters in their own way. Also, saying Messi wouldn't be amazing outside of Barcelona just sounds like an excuse for not willing to admit how good he is imo. No one would move from Barca on their own unless they weren't getting enough time.


Also, welcome back Zach!

 

[zizinho]

Ronaldo is more complete just due to being a beast, but it's hard to say one is obviously better than the other. They're both monsters in their own way. Also, saying Messi wouldn't be amazing outside of Barcelona just sounds like an excuse for not willing to admit how good he is imo. No one would move from Barca on their own unless they weren't getting enough time.


Also, welcome back Zach!

he doesent have to move. take Argentina as an example

 

[ALC]

ok, what about Argentina?

It's not like Ronaldo has won anything with Portugal.

 

[Vialli_92]

Shitty defence ?

alba, alves, mascherano and pique ? Thats like one of the best 5 defences in europe.
Barcelona were mostly focussing on ronaldo, drawing mascherano from his cb to cover for him, giving benzema more space.

Wich is what madrid should have done with messi, but they didnt.

Mascherano and Pique as CB's,thats one of the worst defences in Europe. Alves cant defend and neither can Alba. I think u have to be trolling because there is now any normal person could believe Barca have one of the best 5 defences in Europe.

 

[zizinho]

ok, what about Argentina?

It's not like Ronaldo has won anything with Portugal.

Ronaldo has a EURO final, semifinal and a WC semifinal. still better than Messi who somehow cant get past the quarterfinal... and before you say Copa America, it doesent count cuz they only have Brazil there while in Europe you have 4-5 teams who are favorites in every tournament...

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Mascherano and Pique as CB's,thats one of the worst defences in Europe. Alves cant defend and neither can Alba. I think u have to be trolling because there is now any normal person could believe Barca have one of the best 5 defences in Europe.

they conceded 25 goals this season, less then Real Madrid

 

[ALC]

Ronaldo has a EURO final, semifinal and a WC semifinal. still better than Messi who somehow cant get past the quarterfinal... and before you say Copa America, it doesent count cuz they only have Brazil there while in Europe you have 4-5 teams who are favorites in every tournament...

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they conceded 25 goals this season, less then Real Madrid

Apparently winning Copa America against Brazil doesn't count, unlike losing a Euro final against Greece. plz

Way to forget about Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay, Colombia, etc btw.

 

[zizinho]

Apparently winning Copa America against Brazil doesn't count, unlike losing a Euro final against Greece. plz

Way to forget about Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay, Colombia, etc btw.

they never won the Copa America with Messi with the only rival being Brazil, thats the point. And come on. you cant compare these teams with the likes of Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, France, hell even England and Belgium are better than most of the SA teams.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

they conceded 25 goals this season, less then Real Madrid

ooooownage

 

[Vialli_92]

Ronaldo has a EURO final, semifinal and a WC semifinal. still better than Messi who somehow cant get past the quarterfinal... and before you say Copa America, it doesent count cuz they only have Brazil there while in Europe you have 4-5 teams who are favorites in every tournament...

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they conceded 25 goals this season, less then Real Madrid

ooooownage

U know why that is? Because they control the possession of the game and therefore those weak league teams cant get the ball off of them. They have a terrible defence.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

how much possession one needs to score against a terrible and one of the worst defenses in europe

 

[Bianconero81]

An assist and a hat-trick, i think Messi won this battle.

What the fuck is this shit?! Analysis of a 10 year old.

Messi will die younger and will become an obese old man once he retires due to all the hormones he has been ingesting and injecting since childhood

 

[Cheesio]

Ronaldo better than Messi, man i wonder what football people watch, the pass Messi pulled for Neymar penalty, Ronaldo has never been able to pull something like, he doesn't have the vision nor the creativity, he's a great athlete and that"s all.

 

[Bianconero81]

Go back to sleep man. That he is a great athlete and that is all comment is beyond pathetic. You can argue the case for either player, but your final remark is reprehensible.

 

[Cheesio]

Go back to sleep man. That he is a great athlete and that is all comment is beyond pathetic. You can argue the case for either player, but your final remark is reprehensible.

Ronaldo's greatness come from the fact that he's a great athlete, the best the game has ever seen i guess, but with Messi you can it's just natural, the talent, the skills are somethings he was born with like the Zidanes, Maradonnas and the Del pieros.
So Whenever i see someone saying that Ronaldo is more talented more complete than Messi i can't understand what football they see or have they ever played the game before.

 

[Bianconero81]

Messi is more talented, but that doesn't equate to being a better player.

Ronaldo is more complete; his athleticism renders him so.

 

[Cheesio]

Messi is more talented, but that doesn't equate to being a better player.

Ronaldo is more complete; his athleticism renders him so.

Let's see.

Messi is the better finisher, passer, dribbler. The only thing you could argue Ronaldo does better is Freekicks and that's debateable, CR conversion rate is poor. Being faster stronger doesn't equal being better, Messi at 26 is barca greatest scorer, 4 times ballon d'or and arguably the best club player ever, he's one World cup away from being the greatest ever at fucking 26 years old.

 

[Bianconero81]

He's never going to win the World Cup

Messi is the better passer, but finisher and dribbler? It is debatable. Ronaldo is stronger, more physical, and a better header of the ball.

 

[Cheesio]

He's never going to win the World Cup

Messi is the better passer, but finisher and dribbler? It is debatable. Ronaldo is stronger, more physical, and a better header of the ball.

No, and Messi being less physical and less stronger and slower doesn't hinder him at all, you can't knock him off the ball, he's a master of going out of thights spaces, there's at least 1000 players more physical and stronger than Messi doesn't mean they can do anything as good as him.

 

[Zacheryah]

Let's see.

Messi is the better finisher, passer, dribbler. The only thing you could argue Ronaldo does better is Freekicks and that's debateable, CR conversion rate is poor. Being faster stronger doesn't equal being better, Messi at 26 is barca greatest scorer, 4 times ballon d'or and arguably the best club player ever, he's one World cup away from being the greatest ever at fucking 26 years old.

Messi is crap against italian teams, and without xavi and iniesta carrying him around. He's mediocre for argentina against serious opponents because then they expect him to carry.

in 2012, Ronaldo showed pretty much his superior quality, destroying barcelona in spain, carrying portugal with the best football on the euro cup.
He lost undeservedly twice on penalties, or he'd have won CL and EC that year.

Meanwhile, messi's argentina, stacked of talent, got 4-0 smashed by some german teenagers

Mascherano and Pique as CB's,thats one of the worst defences in Europe. Alves cant defend and neither can Alba. I think u have to be trolling because there is now any normal person could believe Barca have one of the best 5 defences in Europe.

Mascherano was the best CDM in the world before barca turned him into a centreback. Pique is an allrounded central defender. pretty good for a spanish one.
Their wingbacks are attacking, but hold their own in defence