Mauro Icardi - ST - ***** (9 Viewers)

[Orgut]

Higuain is a better player than Icardi atm, and I just cant think of a worse way to spend 110m, giving our problems in midfield.

Morata or Martial would be better suited for CHL football under Allegri and they would cost a lot less.

Higuain is not better than Icardi... Higuain was better than Icardi but the thing is Higuain declined more than Icardi has become a better player...
Currently Higuain is better at shooting despite Icardi scoring more and Higuain is a better all around player BUT Higuain is very heavy in his movement and cant dribble past anyone anymore because of that while Icardi might not be Neymar when it comes to dribbling but since he is not as heavy as Higuain you can expect him more when trying to get past a player...
Should we have a choice between them (no money involved) Icardi should be better for us because Higuain is in decline and he will only become a weaker player (in terms of ability) over time while Icardi is younger and will last more...
That being said - I think adding 50M on top of Higuain for Icardi is madness and Im not sure it is worth it..
As for your "I just cant think of a worse way..." you are probably right as we have bigger problems to address such as our midfield

Morata - He has an upside but also a downside
Upside - He can dribble and is way faster than Higuain or Icardi while he can also help the build-up
Downside - Give him a full season and he will probably wont reach Higuain`s numbers... When we had Morata he was usually the sub of Mandzukic..
Its true things have changed since but the question remains - Can Morata lead our attack?! I dont know..
Martial is a different kind of animal - Martial instead of Higuain means a different type of play with our forwards - It means we change the way we feed the forwards and the way we attack as Dybala or Martial cant compete for headers like Higuain or Morata - Signing Martial if it happens will mean we are getting him as a LW in a 4-2-3-1 as I doubt we will play a 4-3-3 with D.Costa Dybala and Martial - Its just not the way we usually work..

 

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[Robee]

It is great video to show that icardi is not merely a box to box striker

It is not. It is a youtube compilation showing only good things. The only youtube videos that actually show -still little but- something are summaries of one game imo.

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Except Lukaku is a total goof. His first touch is abysmal, he is pure force. Icardi is more like a bigger/stronger Cavani.

No, you couldn't. This is not some unknown guy from a wild league but one of the best strikers in the world. In Inter he is not asked to get involved in play that much, but you can see in certain situations he is good, can still improve and can be used a little differently. He won't be asked to dribble past 3 guys and lead the attack alone, just do one simple thing to involve others and then get in the box to do what he does best.

Both things are possible but uncertain.

 

[il brutto]

It is not. It is a youtube compilation showing only good things. The only youtube videos that actually show -still little but- something are summaries of one game imo.

 

[IlCapitano]

It is not. It is a youtube compilation showing only good things. The only youtube videos that actually show -still little but- something are summaries of one game imo.

It is a YT compilation showing what he CAN do. Considering how people keep saying he's only a box striker the video shows he can do other stuff too. Nobody says his every move is as good as in the video.

 

[Robee]

It is a YT compilation showing what he CAN do. Considering how people keep saying he's only a box striker the video shows he can do other stuff too. Nobody says his every move is as good as in the video.

And Sturaro can score goals from 70 metres out. He only needs a few more tries for the camera.

 

[IlCapitano]

And Sturaro can score goals from 70 metres out. He only needs a few more tries for the camera.

Sure, whatever makes you happy.

 

[Robee]

Sure, whatever makes you happy.

Doesn't make me happy. It's reality.

 

[IlCapitano]

No it isn't, you're exaggerating by bringing Sturaro into the story and then comparing him to Messi. Whatever you wanna imply - that Icardi is as bad as Sturaro is compared to Messi or that what Icardi did in that video is as unsustainable and unlikely as Sturaro scoring from 70 meters - your choice, don't care, it's BS either way.

 

[Robee]

No it isn't, you're exaggerating by bringing Sturaro into the story and then comparing him to Messi. Whatever you wanna imply - that Icardi is as bad as Sturaro is compared to Messi or that what Icardi did in that video is as unsustainable and unlikely as Sturaro scoring from 70 meters - your choice, don't care, it's BS either way.

I didn't compare Sturaro to Messi or said Icardi was as bad as Sturaro. If you think that, you should read it again. I simply said those movies show nothing about how good or bad players are. The amount of over players who turned out to be nothing short of mediocre shows that.

 

[IlCapitano]

And I'm not posting videos of talents that may or may not turn out to be something. I'm posting a video of a top class striker because people have this misconception he's Bafetimbi Gomis or whatever outside of the box.

 

[Robee]

And I'm not posting videos of talents that may or may not turn out to be something. I'm posting a video of a top class striker because people have this misconception he's Bafetimbi Gomis or whatever outside of the box.

I didn't even say he was good or bad. Of course he's a good player. But all I said was we should target a better allround player for the money it would take to bring in that sleazeball. It's 10m more than Griezmann's buyout clause for fucks sake...

 

[IlCapitano]

Market is fucked up. Griezmann is basically another Dybala, they can't play together.

 

[Xperd]

I didn't even say he was good or bad. Of course he's a good player. But all I said was we should target a better allround player for the money it would take to bring in that sleazeball. It's 10m more than Griezmann's buyout clause for fucks sake...

Atletico are offering him 15M a year to keep him for another season.

 

[Robee]

Atletico are offering him 15M a year to keep him for another season.

That's another thing. But 100m could do better than Icardi or just keep Higuain and buy a freaking midfielder for 50-60 mil.

 

[juve123]

Atletico are offering him 15M a year to keep him for another season.

Griezmann move to Barcelona has not been finalized yet

 

[Xperd]

Griezmann move to Barcelona has not been finalized yet

Because he's most probably staying for another year.

 

[juve123]

That's another thing. But 100m could do better than Icardi or just keep Higuain and buy a freaking midfielder for 50-60 mil.

Depends whether coach or management is of the view that whether higuain is in decline or not and as for the midfielder according to the media reports we did offer 80 million euros for SMS but lotito will not budge from his asking price

 

[catch22]

Without being rude and encouraging reading other fan bases' opinions, but we live in an age where we can see opinions of people that watch players on a weekly basis rather than people who's opinions might just be based on youtube videos around here or the two games a season we play against them. For every Inter fan who worships the ground he walks on for his goal tally, there is another to berates him for being lazy, often invisible, slow, and not being involved in build up play. The word poacher also gets thrown around on a regular basis too. So as much as someone around here might want to state he's more than a just a box striker based on some highlights I think it speaks volumes that their own fans who one would think would be in utter consensus about his talents are often talking about whether they would be better off without him.

Furthermore, surely it's painfully obvious that Dybala is fucking shit when he is forced to work defensively? Yet people like the idea of putting him with Icardi? Someone who has a less defensive work-rate than our slightly rotund current CF?

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Yes. Go look at Cavani when he was 25, he would barely touch the ball in the build up outside of quick one touch passes and leaving it to a more creative player. Cavani is much faster, Icardi is much stronger, but other than that both are very similar. Both are aggressive without the ball, great movement, first time shooting almost always and they attack the ball - meaning they don't wait for it to come in a cross but they move before the ball so they're easier to find. Neither is a dribbler, but they're very smart and don't try to do too much preferring to run onto the ball and find open spaces. Both great finishers.

The difference between Cavani and Icardi is one of them is able to thrive in multiple different attacking schemes and the other can't. Also, work rate. Cavani has shown he can play the traditional CF role at a club where teams often park the bus against them, but he also worked fantastically in Mazzarri's counterattacking Napoli side. Icardi completely destroys Inter's ability to play on the counter due to either completely not being involved in build up or due to the fact he is very clunky and slow player in transition. Furthermore Cavani is much better at the ball at his feet at pace. While neither are traditional dribblers Cavani is at least able to attack space with the ball at his feet quickly.

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Btw. Found this forza inter forum post to be quite good

"At this point I'm practically repeating myself but I think non-juve fans are too dismissive of Higuain. They joke about his weight and those famous misses for Argentina in the World Cup and Copa America finals, but I don't believe he's significantly worse than Icardi (that's not to say he's significantly better either.) Even though I don't want Higuain anywhere near our team, the guy is far more technical than Icardi, he's physically stronger, has a much greater range of goal-scoring and I'd even wager he'd beat Icardi in a sprint despite being about 6 years older and about 15kg heavier.
@Post Ironic

 

[MikeM]

Icardi has completely average athleticism.

 

[IlCapitano]

Without being rude we have people here disagreeing on multiple aspects of Dybala's game, what he can and can't do and we all watch every single game. When you watch a player and register his strengths and flaws it's different to what I see. We have people saying Higuain is very good in headers, others obviously disagree. So excuse me for not caring what Inter fans say about one WC player they have. I've seen them flip-flop from 'WC choker' to going ham at a slightest mention of his sale between Sassuolo game and now.

When I watch him (in games and in highlights) I see things that he can do much better in a more organized team with better teammates, from work rate to being more engaged and improving technically. And in the end, if he comes, and if he does none of the other things, if he's exclusively a box striker - just his strength, aerial ability and finishing is a huge improvement in itself over what we have now, let alone if he does anything else.

Sorry, I watched every single Cavani game over the last 2-3 years and that's not true. He was on the verge of leaving PSG if Ibra stayed and forced him to play wider again. He is exclusively a box striker, Pippo Inzaghi type striker with incredible work rate defensively too. If he touches the ball outside of the area it's very short and very quick pass and running into space. His movement is maybe the best I've ever seen so he doesn't have to touch the ball before scoring. He cannot dribble, he's clumsy with the ball and he'll often misplace a slightly more complicated pass. But he's the best pure no.9 in the world still. What makes him great besides finishing, heading, movement are the intangibles. He's incredibly smart, a workhorse, team player and has grinta in the way Vidal had it. True embodiment of fino alla fine.