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IlCapitano

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No, you said being strong and not a total goof were the most important things. Lukaku has both but he still majorly sucks...

And I could make Sturaro look like Messi on youtube, that doesn't say much. I like Icardi's sense for runs but his buildup play is not up to the standard we should be looking for if we offload Higuain.
Except Lukaku is a total goof. His first touch is abysmal, he is pure force. Icardi is more like a bigger/stronger Cavani.

No, you couldn't. This is not some unknown guy from a wild league but one of the best strikers in the world. In Inter he is not asked to get involved in play that much, but you can see in certain situations he is good, can still improve and can be used a little differently. He won't be asked to dribble past 3 guys and lead the attack alone, just do one simple thing to involve others and then get in the box to do what he does best.
 

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juve123

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Except Lukaku is a total goof. His first touch is abysmal, he is pure force. Icardi is more like a bigger/stronger Cavani.

No, you couldn't. This is not some unknown guy from a wild league but one of the best strikers in the world. In Inter he is not asked to get involved in play that much, but you can see in certain situations he is good, can still improve and can be used a little differently. He won't be asked to dribble past 3 guys and lead the attack alone, just do one simple thing to involve others and then get in the box to do what he does best.
He is shorter than higuain but his ability to hold up the ball is good
 

IlCapitano

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Yes. Go look at Cavani when he was 25, he would barely touch the ball in the build up outside of quick one touch passes and leaving it to a more creative player. Cavani is much faster, Icardi is much stronger, but other than that both are very similar. Both are aggressive without the ball, great movement, first time shooting almost always and they attack the ball - meaning they don't wait for it to come in a cross but they move before the ball so they're easier to find. Neither is a dribbler, but they're very smart and don't try to do too much preferring to run onto the ball and find open spaces. Both great finishers.
 

Orgut

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Say rather invest in midfield then? Because NO WAY IN HELL I WOULD EVER ACCEPT Balotelli in Juve, Icardi only negative might be the price, and if we sell Higauin, we can live with that negative if it comes to it, but even for free Balotelli is WALKING STINKING negative from top to bottom.



I say walking, because that what he litterally does on the pitch, he walks because he thinks he is too good to run for his teammates.
Its good you dont make the shots then :D
I dont want us to pay 110M for Icardi as I think he is a very good in the box but I dont think he is such a good build up player or such a great outside the box shooter while Higuain is quite good IMO
Yes between them both I`d take Icardi since Higuain is on a decline but I rather see us take someone else even look for a young player who can be the next big thing..

Balotelli?! I`d take him for free but giving him the nod with no one else to perform in case he fucks up will be a huge mistake
I`d like us to get him but as a rotation player and not as THE striker - If he proves himself we can give it a shot but to rely on him in his first season is a suicide.. It might work but definitely not worth the risk
 

Hydde

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What I think with Icardi and with whoever we buy upfront...is that it is half the problem, not the whole thing. Let me explain.

See, if we had a supreme midfield who had gazzilion created opportunities but we were failing to score left and right because our forwards were bad, i would say go on and sign him without even thinking. The problem is, we generate few chances for our forwards and they need to be in constant struggle to get the ball. Even prime CR7 would have trouble scoring for us in that case.

If we sign Icardi, and we do not find a solution to our midfield..he will be a major money waste. If we are going to sign Icardi we need to make sure he will be receiving . alot of chances and we will try to play a midfield oriented strategy, otherwise we will be throwing money into the toilet.
 

spurdo

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What I think with Icardi and with whoever we buy upfront...is that it is half the problem, not the whole thing. Let me explain.

See, if we had a supreme midfield who had gazzilion created opportunities but we were failing to score left and right because our forwards were bad, i would say go on and sign him without even thinking. The problem is, we generate few chances for our forwards and they need to be in constant struggle to get the ball. Even prime CR7 would have trouble scoring for us in that case.

If we sign Icardi, and we do not find a solution to our midfield..he will be a major money waste. If we are going to sign Icardi we need to make sure he will be receiving . alot of chances and we will try to play a midfield oriented strategy, otherwise we will be throwing money into the toilet.
Good post. I mean Sarri made fukkin Mertens more prolific than the previous-seasons record-holder Higuain solely due to tactics and more direct-midfielders. Same with Immobile at Lazio right now. We need to sign a Vidal/SMS/Nainggolan on top of Can to heavily improve our midfield positions. Khedira, Matuidi, Bentancur, Sturaro....even Marchisio are not CL-final level players IMO. Pjanic-Can-SMS on the other hand looks much more dynamic and fluid who can both win the ball and distribute it to forward positions more effectively.
 

JuveJay

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Looks like a move that will create more problems for Dybala rather than solve them. Not that he has much chemistry with Higuain anyway.
 

LiquidPLP

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Looks like a move that will create more problems for Dybala rather than solve them. Not that he has much chemistry with Higuain anyway.
Exactly. IMO we should stick to Higuain and leave the attack as it is. Perhaps we could include Pjaca as bench option because injuries always happen to us and then we're left with no options on the bench (Cuadrado and Bernardeschi out and we're very thin in that department). Invest the money into midfield. Be it unrealistic targets like Pogba or SMS or someone more realistic like Kovacic - we should aim for quality CM to be a starter but also someone decent for rotation.


Icardi doesn't make sense because bar the age he's a sideways move for us. Especially now that Higuain is more experienced and useful in Europe. Icardi, despite being 25 never played in CL so go figure :)
 

IlCapitano

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Looks like a move that will create more problems for Dybala rather than solve them. Not that he has much chemistry with Higuain anyway.
Dybala clashed with Higuain sometimes because they often occupied the same spaces between the lines. He worked best when MM was the striker holding the CBs occupied and unable to jump the lines. They also had great chemistry with those little dump off passes MM would do. I see them working very well together (Dybala and Icardi).
 

MikeM

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Dybala clashed with Higuain sometimes because they often occupied the same spaces between the lines. He worked best when MM was the striker holding the CBs occupied and unable to jump the lines. They also had great chemistry with those little dump off passes MM would do. I see them working very well together (Dybala and Icardi).
Then you are saying Icardi can do the same things as Mandzukic in the air which he absolutely cannot.
 

IlCapitano

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Exactly. IMO we should stick to Higuain and leave the attack as it is. Perhaps we could include Pjaca as bench option because injuries always happen to us and then we're left with no options on the bench (Cuadrado and Bernardeschi out and we're very thin in that department). Invest the money into midfield. Be it unrealistic targets like Pogba or SMS or someone more realistic like Kovacic - we should aim for quality CM to be a starter but also someone decent for rotation.


Icardi doesn't make sense because bar the age he's a sideways move for us. Especially now that Higuain is more experienced and useful in Europe. Icardi, despite being 25 never played in CL so go figure :)
That doesn't mean anything. Suarez barely played for Ajax in CL before going to Liverpool. Cavani never played in CL before Napoli and scored well for them there and now for PSG. Mbappe never played in CL and crushed it last year.

It's not some mythical competition you need to have years of experience to be successful in. I understand how you may feel that way after watching Higuain underperform but it's not that way for everyone.

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Then you are saying Icardi can do the same things as Mandzukic in the air which he absolutely cannot.
Yes he can, it's one of his greatest strengths.
 

Hydde

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Looks like a move that will create more problems for Dybala rather than solve them. Not that he has much chemistry with Higuain anyway.
Exactly. I can see the dybala problems even intensifying, and i dont see dybala and icardi functioning well, on top that icardi is a prick and sooner or later will have a stir with dybala
 

IlCapitano

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I'm sorry but I don't think anyone here would agree. Mandzukic wins 9 out of 10 balls straight to a teammate.
I'm sorry but exaggerating won't prove your point. MM wins so many duels now (2.8) because he's matched up against a full back. When he played as a striker with us he won 1.2 per game. Icardi wins 0.9 right now.
 

duranfj

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Exactly. I can see the dybala problems even intensifying, and i dont see dybala and icardi functioning well, on top that icardi is a prick and sooner or later will have a stir with dybala
Those two plus his merda's captain illness... We would have to keep playing like this season and I really don't like it... and If we are gonna go back to 4231, that system depend a lot of Mandzo grintas and that's a question mark right now...
 
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