Maurizio Sarri (44 Viewers)

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
19,336
Under Allegri we faced Atalanta three times last season, did not come away with a single W.

And now we beat em 3-1, grazie Mister.
Except for one game Allegri played Atalanta much better..
I dont think there is one Juventino here who thinks we deserved to win yesterday...

I choose to remain optimistic about our chances until proven otherwise but Im starting to lose patience.. I expected us to play a much better style of football...

I hope Klopp wins the EPL this season and then decides to move on... There is no other manager I would rather get than Klopp - IMO he is the best in the world!

Also I think Sarri doesnt know how to handle Ronaldo..

P.S Klopp IMO would turn D.Costa into another Salah - I imagine it now signing Salah and playing D.Costa (left) Salah (right) Ronaldo (center) with Dybala waiting for his chance and then taking over from Ronaldo
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
5,859
Except for one game Allegri played Atalanta much better..
I dont think there is one Juventino here who thinks we deserved to win yesterday...

I choose to remain optimistic about our chances until proven otherwise but Im starting to lose patience.. I expected us to play a much better style of football...

I hope Klopp wins the EPL this season and then decides to move on... There is no other manager I would rather get than Klopp - IMO he is the best in the world!

Also I think Sarri doesnt know how to handle Ronaldo..

P.S Klopp IMO would turn D.Costa into another Salah - I imagine it now signing Salah and playing D.Costa (left) Salah (right) Ronaldo (center) with Dybala waiting for his chance and then taking over from Ronaldo
I do think we deserved the win yesterday, we defended well in the first half and dominated most of the second half. Both Dybala and Higuain deserved their goals and de Ligt played a great game in defense not a lucky one
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
19,336
I do think we deserved the win yesterday, we defended well in the first half and dominated most of the second half. Both Dybala and Higuain deserved their goals and de Ligt played a great game in defense not a lucky one
This is more of the outcome of the game.
I do not know about the first half but highlights and what I heard - I did hear MDL and Woj gave a performance but it also means Atalanta controlled the game and were more dangerous.
Second half I cant say we were better but we had individual brilliance from Dybala and Higuain.
Also we had a goal given despite Cuadrado`s handball - IMO it should have been disallowed - Anyway Im happy about the points!

Im trying to be as much unbiased as I can which is very difficult as I consider myself a diehard fan.
Saying we didnt deserve to win or a goal should have been disallowed doesnt mean Im not happy we won and the goal was allowed as obviously I rather mistakes happen in our favor and I want us to win all the time (no matter who is the opponent and if we play home or away)
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
5,859
Almost every goal scored involves individual brilliance, bad players rarely score goals or create chances.

Juve fought hard yesterday and definitely deserved all 3 points. Woj, MDL, Dybala and Higgy all play for team Juventus not for individual glory and their heroics yesterday were definitely not due to luck. Besides 2nd goal was as much a team goal as it gets.
 

juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
16,652
Almost every goal scored involves individual brilliance, bad players rarely score goals or create chances.

Juve fought hard yesterday and definitely deserved all 3 points. Woj, MDL, Dybala and Higgy all play for team Juventus not for individual glory and their heroics yesterday were definitely not due to luck. Besides 2nd goal was as much a team goal as it gets.
How you see the 4-3-1-2 formation going forward do you think our lack of width will get exposed against better sides in Europe?
 

Spath

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Dec 6, 2012
601
Except for one game Allegri played Atalanta much better..
I dont think there is one Juventino here who thinks we deserved to win yesterday...

I choose to remain optimistic about our chances until proven otherwise but Im starting to lose patience.. I expected us to play a much better style of football...

I hope Klopp wins the EPL this season and then decides to move on... There is no other manager I would rather get than Klopp - IMO he is the best in the world!

Also I think Sarri doesnt know how to handle Ronaldo..

P.S Klopp IMO would turn D.Costa into another Salah - I imagine it now signing Salah and playing D.Costa (left) Salah (right) Ronaldo (center) with Dybala waiting for his chance and then taking over from Ronaldo
Do you remember the first 8-9 months of Klopp at Liverpool? He evolved his team to the level they are nowadays through time, not in the first few months. Imagine being treated as Sarri where our own fans pray to lose in order to shout #SarriOut. I also don't like him (Sarri) or consider him to be on Klopp level but the hate on this guy is unreal by our fans. The football we are playing is unwatchable for the most part of every match, but remember we are trying to change our playstyle (at least that's what board hopes by replacing Allegri with Sarri) which is a process that takes time. I'm glad though that some individual players (Dybala, Higuain, Cuadrado, Bonucci,Pjanic, Costa) look much better now.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Do you remember the first 8-9 months of Klopp at Liverpool? He evolved his team to the level they are nowadays through time, not in the first few months. Imagine being treated as Sarri where our own fans pray to lose in order to shout #SarriOut. I also don't like him (Sarri) or consider him to be on Klopp level but the hate on this guy is unreal by our fans. The football we are playing is unwatchable for the most part of every match, but remember we are trying to change our playstyle (at least that's what board hopes by replacing Allegri with Sarri) which is a process that takes time. I'm glad though that some individual players (Dybala, Higuain, Cuadrado, Bonucci,Pjanic, Costa) look much better now.
I agree. I will give my final judgement at the end of the season but I dont like what I see..
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
5,859
How you see the 4-3-1-2 formation going forward do you think our lack of width will get exposed against better sides in Europe?
Defensively I think we're fine, our midfield is very solid defensively and the only possible weak spot is the right side, if Khedira isnt plugged in and Cuads faces a lot of pressure, we can have problems there.

In attack I think this team is a lot more suited against teams that attack and treat us like equals and the formation doesnt matter much there. 4312s big problem is unlocking the small teams, on the counter Dybalas dribbling, Higuains positioning and linkup play and Ronaldos speed and quality can really shine.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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For what it’s worth, we have to be the best club in the world pulling victories out of our asses when we look terrible, which is pretty much every match. That automatically makes us better than Liverpool since they don’t have to do it as often.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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Do you remember the first 8-9 months of Klopp at Liverpool? He evolved his team to the level they are nowadays through time, not in the first few months. Imagine being treated as Sarri where our own fans pray to lose in order to shout #SarriOut. I also don't like him (Sarri) or consider him to be on Klopp level but the hate on this guy is unreal by our fans. The football we are playing is unwatchable for the most part of every match, but remember we are trying to change our playstyle (at least that's what board hopes by replacing Allegri with Sarri) which is a process that takes time. I'm glad though that some individual players (Dybala, Higuain, Cuadrado, Bonucci,Pjanic, Costa) look much better now.
Lol who here has ever said that? Quote one post.

I keep seeing this nonsense from the feebler minded posters here but about those who doubt Sarri but i've never once seen someone actually root for the club to lose just to be right about Sarri. It was the anti - Allegri crowd who were hoping the club would lose because, obviously, they are the feeble minded.
 

venus_isle

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Sep 23, 2010
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Took couple years for Guardiola to transform Man City..
Took couple years for Klopp to transform Liverpool..

Honestly, i think only Higuain 'understand really well' Sarri system.. look at how Higuain flourishes and how his linkup play and his passing game is really good this season.. i dont think thats a co-incidence

We just need more ppl to understand and adapt to the new system and we'll see the real transformation
 

Jethro

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Mar 6, 2018
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For what it’s worth, we have to be the best club in the world pulling victories out of our asses when we look terrible, which is pretty much every match. That automatically makes us better than Liverpool since they don’t have to do it as often.
Liverpool won a lot of points in the last 10 minutes of games this and last season as well though
 

IlCapitano

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Dec 16, 2012
5,614
Took couple years for Guardiola to transform Man City..
Took couple years for Klopp to transform Liverpool..

Honestly, i think only Higuain 'understand really well' Sarri system.. look at how Higuain flourishes and how his linkup play and his passing game is really good this season.. i dont think thats a co-incidence

We just need more ppl to understand and adapt to the new system and we'll see the real transformation
Juventus don't need fucking transforming.

Btw, you could see Pep's and Klopp's ideas two weeks into their tenures there.

If you need 8 months to make a system work - maybe it's not such a good system?
 

Nedved96

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Sep 1, 2017
7,198
Btw, you could see Pep's and Klopp's ideas two weeks into their tenures there.

If you need 8 months to make a system work - maybe it's not such a good system?
There have already been some changes implemented at Juve, our passing between the defence and midfield is quicker and more accurate than it was last season.

Last season, as soon as any team pressed us we shat the bed. This season we are better at playing through the press.
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
5,859
Lol who here has ever said that? Quote one post.

I keep seeing this nonsense from the feebler minded posters here but about those who doubt Sarri but i've never once seen someone actually root for the club to lose just to be right about Sarri. It was the anti - Allegri crowd who were hoping the club would lose because, obviously, they are the feeble minded.
Lol of course no one is actually posting "I hope we lose so I can rant about Sarri". But if you take a look at the live thread and Sarri thread during the matches when we're losing/drawing, some people definitely enjoy the chance to shiton our coach.
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
Lol who here has ever said that? Quote one post.

I keep seeing this nonsense from the feebler minded posters here but about those who doubt Sarri but i've never once seen someone actually root for the club to lose just to be right about Sarri. It was the anti - Allegri crowd who were hoping the club would lose because, obviously, they are the feeble minded.
There are a few members of the Sarri-out bandwagon who have openly wished for him to get lung cancer. I can’t recall any Allegri critic ever scooping that low?
 

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